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Just curious... how irreplaceable do you think we are here, in case of a strike??
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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 1019457" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>A couple of points:</p><p></p><p> 1. First, in a sense, UPS has already "outsourced" a lot of the the work. With the aquisition of TNT, I suspect the company today, even without the domestic operations, isn't all that far from the size of the entire company at the time of the '97 strike. The company has a much broader field of revenue generation beyond the control of the Teamsters than there was the last go-round (and I don't think that's just coincidental, either) </p><p></p><p>2. If UPS decided to "hard line" it (and I'm not saying or suggesting that they would), while the strike might be national, the response would likely be regional; i.e. - the workforce would be replaced center by center, division by division, district by district, region by region as the available trainers (mgmt?) incrementally brought a new labor force online. If the union went out on strike nationally, it pretty much would relinquish that option for itself....it would be all or nothing. "Yes", a lot of business would be lost to the company that way...but if you end-up with a non-Teamster workforce, the resulting smaller business might (again, I'm saying "might") be more profitable that the previous larger "union" one. And remember..."profit" is the name of the game, not the size of the business. Plus, it would have the potential to be much more competitive with FedEx and other entities as well. Remember, if UPS went out on strike, FedEx wouldn't be able to absorb all the extra volume either, while UPS would at least have its capital structure (buildings and equipment) in place, while FedEx would have to acquire it. Plus Airborne and DHL aren't in play like they were 15 years ago, either. From all that, I'm guessing that UPS would probably be able to rather quickly (and by "rather quickly", I'm still talking a period of years) get a lot of its business back, albeit there most assuredly being a lost of some.</p><p></p><p>3. I'm not sure how long 300,000+ workers would remain out on strike. Remember, a substantial portion of that 300,000 aren't actual Teamster members to begin with. And many of the p/t'ers could be replaced with a simple wage boost...something that wouldn't be all that unlikely if a corresponding friend/t decrease was in the offing. Beyond that, I remember that i '97 there were hourly getting quite edgy after only three weeks....and that, in response, the union "blinked" with the CSPF offer. With the economy as it is today, how long could the line be effectively held?</p><p></p><p>Again, just consideration points, and I'm not stating or even implying that they'll come into play. But I am suggesting that it's a possibility</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 1019457, member: 16651"] A couple of points: 1. First, in a sense, UPS has already "outsourced" a lot of the the work. With the aquisition of TNT, I suspect the company today, even without the domestic operations, isn't all that far from the size of the entire company at the time of the '97 strike. The company has a much broader field of revenue generation beyond the control of the Teamsters than there was the last go-round (and I don't think that's just coincidental, either) 2. If UPS decided to "hard line" it (and I'm not saying or suggesting that they would), while the strike might be national, the response would likely be regional; i.e. - the workforce would be replaced center by center, division by division, district by district, region by region as the available trainers (mgmt?) incrementally brought a new labor force online. If the union went out on strike nationally, it pretty much would relinquish that option for itself....it would be all or nothing. "Yes", a lot of business would be lost to the company that way...but if you end-up with a non-Teamster workforce, the resulting smaller business might (again, I'm saying "might") be more profitable that the previous larger "union" one. And remember..."profit" is the name of the game, not the size of the business. Plus, it would have the potential to be much more competitive with FedEx and other entities as well. Remember, if UPS went out on strike, FedEx wouldn't be able to absorb all the extra volume either, while UPS would at least have its capital structure (buildings and equipment) in place, while FedEx would have to acquire it. Plus Airborne and DHL aren't in play like they were 15 years ago, either. From all that, I'm guessing that UPS would probably be able to rather quickly (and by "rather quickly", I'm still talking a period of years) get a lot of its business back, albeit there most assuredly being a lost of some. 3. I'm not sure how long 300,000+ workers would remain out on strike. Remember, a substantial portion of that 300,000 aren't actual Teamster members to begin with. And many of the p/t'ers could be replaced with a simple wage boost...something that wouldn't be all that unlikely if a corresponding friend/t decrease was in the offing. Beyond that, I remember that i '97 there were hourly getting quite edgy after only three weeks....and that, in response, the union "blinked" with the CSPF offer. With the economy as it is today, how long could the line be effectively held? Again, just consideration points, and I'm not stating or even implying that they'll come into play. But I am suggesting that it's a possibility [/QUOTE]
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