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Just curious... how irreplaceable do you think we are here, in case of a strike??
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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 1021914" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>JonFrum;</p><p></p><p>Sounds like recent events have gotten your dander up. Again, you're entitled to your opinion. If you think what I've outlined as possible is mere "fantasy", then more power to you. Your opinion, however, doesn't really change the situation's potential...nor have you provided any sort of valid argument that such a potential doesn't exist. Obviously, I'd have a lot more respect for that opinion if you had...or were at least able to try.</p><p></p><p>Moreover, I'd submit that, over the years, the Teamsters have been confronted by similar "fantasies" that they were unprepared to deal with; "fantasies" that unfortunately came true. After all, it wasn't facing reality that led the union to lose half of its members jobs....or well more than half of them in the core transportation industry. In that vein, I can remember back when there were tons of Teamsters like you equally prepared to call the possibility of trucking deregulation nothing but a "fantasy". Unfortunately, that "fantasy" proved all-too-real, and bit the union in the behind big-time. Over and over again, there were members telling themselves that such-and-such "couldn't happen"...then situations like Central States, CFWY, YRCW, the rise of FedEx, etc., came along. Were those events all simply "straw me" that were set up?</p><p></p><p>Again, you're entitled to your opinion. But, using your analogy, the last time I looked, 50% of ALL marriages DIDN'T last...and I can't help but believe that those who maintain that it's a "fantasy" to even consider that there's at least a chance of their failure are incredibly naive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 1021914, member: 16651"] JonFrum; Sounds like recent events have gotten your dander up. Again, you're entitled to your opinion. If you think what I've outlined as possible is mere "fantasy", then more power to you. Your opinion, however, doesn't really change the situation's potential...nor have you provided any sort of valid argument that such a potential doesn't exist. Obviously, I'd have a lot more respect for that opinion if you had...or were at least able to try. Moreover, I'd submit that, over the years, the Teamsters have been confronted by similar "fantasies" that they were unprepared to deal with; "fantasies" that unfortunately came true. After all, it wasn't facing reality that led the union to lose half of its members jobs....or well more than half of them in the core transportation industry. In that vein, I can remember back when there were tons of Teamsters like you equally prepared to call the possibility of trucking deregulation nothing but a "fantasy". Unfortunately, that "fantasy" proved all-too-real, and bit the union in the behind big-time. Over and over again, there were members telling themselves that such-and-such "couldn't happen"...then situations like Central States, CFWY, YRCW, the rise of FedEx, etc., came along. Were those events all simply "straw me" that were set up? Again, you're entitled to your opinion. But, using your analogy, the last time I looked, 50% of ALL marriages DIDN'T last...and I can't help but believe that those who maintain that it's a "fantasy" to even consider that there's at least a chance of their failure are incredibly naive. [/QUOTE]
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