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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1823519" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I have the same belief in regards to Jesus death and resurrection as I do about the death and resurrection of Tammuz, Osirus, Dionysis, Adonis, Attis or Baal among many others.</p><p></p><p>And which Jesus?</p><p></p><p><strong>Jesus ben Sirach</strong>. This Jesus was reputedly the author of the <em>Book of Sirach</em> (aka <em>'Ecclesiasticus, or the Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach</em>'), part of Old Testament <em>Apocrypha</em>. Ben Sirach, writing in Greek about 180 BC, brought together Jewish 'wisdom' and Homeric-style heroes.</p><p></p><p><strong>Jesus ben Pandira.</strong> A wonder-worker during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus (106-79 BC), one of the most ruthless of the Maccabean kings. Imprudently, this Jesus launched into a career of end-time prophecy and agitation which upset the king. He met his own premature end-time by being hung on a tree – and on the eve of a Passover. Scholars have speculated this Jesus founded the Essene sect.</p><p></p><p><strong>Jesus ben Ananias</strong>. Beginning in 62AD, this Jesus had caused disquiet in Jerusalem with a non-stop doom-laden mantra of <em>‘Woe to the city’</em>. He prophesied rather vaguely:</p><p></p><p><em>"A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against the whole people."</em></p><p></p><p>– Josephus, <em>Wars</em> 6.3.</p><p></p><p>Arrested and flogged by the Romans, Jesus ben Ananias was released as nothing more dangerous than a mad man. He died during the siege of Jerusalem from a rock hurled by a Roman catapult.</p><p></p><p><strong>Jesus ben Saphat</strong>. In the insurrection of 68AD that wrought havoc in Galilee, this Jesus had led the rebels in Tiberias ("<em>the leader of a seditious tumult of mariners and poor people</em>" – Josephus, <em>Life</em> 12.66). When the city was about to fall to Vespasian’s legionaries he fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee.</p><p></p><p><strong>Jesus ben Gamala.</strong> During 68/69 AD this Jesus was a leader of the ‘peace party’ in the civil war wrecking Judaea. From the walls of Jerusalem he had remonstrated with the besieging Idumeans (led by ‘James and John, sons of Susa’). It did him no good. When the Idumeans breached the walls he was put to death and his body thrown to the dogs and carrion birds.</p><p></p><p><strong>Jesus ben Thebuth.</strong> A priest who, in the final capitulation of the upper city in 69AD, saved his own skin by surrendering the treasures of the Temple, which included two holy candlesticks, goblets of pure gold, sacred curtains and robes of the high priests. The booty figured prominently in the Triumph held for Vespasian and his son Titus.</p><p></p><p>Now never let it be said that a historical Jesus outside the bible is never recorded by history. So which one is yours?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1823519, member: 2189"] I have the same belief in regards to Jesus death and resurrection as I do about the death and resurrection of Tammuz, Osirus, Dionysis, Adonis, Attis or Baal among many others. And which Jesus? [B]Jesus ben Sirach[/B]. This Jesus was reputedly the author of the [I]Book of Sirach[/I] (aka [I]'Ecclesiasticus, or the Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach[/I]'), part of Old Testament [I]Apocrypha[/I]. Ben Sirach, writing in Greek about 180 BC, brought together Jewish 'wisdom' and Homeric-style heroes. [B]Jesus ben Pandira.[/B] A wonder-worker during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus (106-79 BC), one of the most ruthless of the Maccabean kings. Imprudently, this Jesus launched into a career of end-time prophecy and agitation which upset the king. He met his own premature end-time by being hung on a tree – and on the eve of a Passover. Scholars have speculated this Jesus founded the Essene sect. [B]Jesus ben Ananias[/B]. Beginning in 62AD, this Jesus had caused disquiet in Jerusalem with a non-stop doom-laden mantra of [I]‘Woe to the city’[/I]. He prophesied rather vaguely: [I]"A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against the whole people."[/I] – Josephus, [I]Wars[/I] 6.3. Arrested and flogged by the Romans, Jesus ben Ananias was released as nothing more dangerous than a mad man. He died during the siege of Jerusalem from a rock hurled by a Roman catapult. [B]Jesus ben Saphat[/B]. In the insurrection of 68AD that wrought havoc in Galilee, this Jesus had led the rebels in Tiberias ("[I]the leader of a seditious tumult of mariners and poor people[/I]" – Josephus, [I]Life[/I] 12.66). When the city was about to fall to Vespasian’s legionaries he fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee. [B]Jesus ben Gamala.[/B] During 68/69 AD this Jesus was a leader of the ‘peace party’ in the civil war wrecking Judaea. From the walls of Jerusalem he had remonstrated with the besieging Idumeans (led by ‘James and John, sons of Susa’). It did him no good. When the Idumeans breached the walls he was put to death and his body thrown to the dogs and carrion birds. [B]Jesus ben Thebuth.[/B] A priest who, in the final capitulation of the upper city in 69AD, saved his own skin by surrendering the treasures of the Temple, which included two holy candlesticks, goblets of pure gold, sacred curtains and robes of the high priests. The booty figured prominently in the Triumph held for Vespasian and his son Titus. Now never let it be said that a historical Jesus outside the bible is never recorded by history. So which one is yours? [/QUOTE]
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