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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1835358" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Hmmm. To posit there is an absolute, unchangeable moral law given to us by a absolute moral lawgiver, in this case it equals god, then it would stand to reason that god does not violate his absolute, unchangeable moral law.</p><p></p><p>Just on the Noah flood story alone seems to me blows that theory out of the water. BUT, BUT, there is an apologist explanation for this. "Thou shall not kill" did not exist until Moses which was well after Noah so everything is still good. Ahhhh, Houston we have a problem. God did order the Israelites to slaughter everything in Canaan not nailed down. </p><p></p><p>And if the 10 commandments are the basis of all moral law, why did god wait almost 3k years after creation to finally get around to dictating them to Moses at Sinai?</p><p></p><p>Before one goes and ascribes all morals to god and therefore make absolutes from that, you might consider the reality a group of jews about to die in a german concentration camp came too. This event was recorded by Ellie Wiesel as actually having taken place. The entire film (God on Trial) is powerful and moving but this very scene linked below is the most powerful. </p><p></p><p>If one is a person of faith, this film won't change that but if you are any kind of human being, you won't come away as an absolutist about your moral high ground either. And besides, if being an atheist equaled immorality then seems to me the vast amount of the prison population would be atheist when in fact the actuality of prison population is just the opposite. And what about all the corrupt political leaders? Americans have spoken that they will not vote for an atheist but in the case of a believer in god, well you know where this is going now don't you! <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]QduJ121DBXU[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1835358, member: 2189"] Hmmm. To posit there is an absolute, unchangeable moral law given to us by a absolute moral lawgiver, in this case it equals god, then it would stand to reason that god does not violate his absolute, unchangeable moral law. Just on the Noah flood story alone seems to me blows that theory out of the water. BUT, BUT, there is an apologist explanation for this. "Thou shall not kill" did not exist until Moses which was well after Noah so everything is still good. Ahhhh, Houston we have a problem. God did order the Israelites to slaughter everything in Canaan not nailed down. And if the 10 commandments are the basis of all moral law, why did god wait almost 3k years after creation to finally get around to dictating them to Moses at Sinai? Before one goes and ascribes all morals to god and therefore make absolutes from that, you might consider the reality a group of jews about to die in a german concentration camp came too. This event was recorded by Ellie Wiesel as actually having taken place. The entire film (God on Trial) is powerful and moving but this very scene linked below is the most powerful. If one is a person of faith, this film won't change that but if you are any kind of human being, you won't come away as an absolutist about your moral high ground either. And besides, if being an atheist equaled immorality then seems to me the vast amount of the prison population would be atheist when in fact the actuality of prison population is just the opposite. And what about all the corrupt political leaders? Americans have spoken that they will not vote for an atheist but in the case of a believer in god, well you know where this is going now don't you! ;) [MEDIA=youtube]QduJ121DBXU[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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