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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fishtm2001" data-source="post: 4740132" data-attributes="member: 54375">"Through the Trump years, a line of distinguished commentators has argued that Trump is simply too much of a buffoon and a maroon to do any real harm. The January 6 plan was indeed buffoonish and moronic. Even supposing the crowd had succeeded in intimidating Pence into rejecting the certified returns, his ruling would not have been sustained. Joe Biden would still become president at noon on January 20.But an idiotic, futile coup attempt can nonetheless get people killed. Five people died. That number could easily have been much higher. Members of Congress could have been among them. Pence could have been among them."David Frum</blockquote>