You and every other PC driver (myself included) have a crapload of other things to worry about just in the course of the day. It sucks having to deal with being harassed about late air that you don't have control over. If its not late air then its going to be something else as that's how UPS works. Just put the ball in their court, do your best and cash the check Friday. Leave the worrying to them!
Late Air ....
- Thread starter GolfCart
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Someone should mention that to his management team.
I had 4 late air last year in one day . 15 air stops . They Called me in office next day " talk to " you should have done town 1st and country 2nd . Then you would have had LESS late air . I told him so its OK to have late air just less of it ? He would NOT answer question 
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I had 4 late air last year in one day . 15 air stops . They Called me in office next day " talk to " you should have done town 1st and country 2nd . Then you would have had LESS late air . I told him so its OK to have late air just less of it ? He would NOT answer question
One late air is too many but your center manager was right in that you should have tried to have as few late air as possible.
I told him I wanted NO late air , I even started 10 mins early that day , still no luck ! My hub is wanting to cut out ALL AM part time drivers . I begged for help that day , he said there was none , do the best you can . Its just sad that UPS does not care anymore .
Packmule
Well-Known Member
You are right about the pride thing. All, (or most) of us do take pride in doing the job right and it is downright infuriating when we can't because of dispatch problems. That is when we have to stop taking it personally. We can and should bring the issue to mgt's attention, but after that, we can't be out there overdriving speed limits or conditions. Get the superman cape off and do your best, then don't beat yourself up.
Scoot
Well-Known Member
Are you doing a thorough pretrip before you leave the building? If you break down that will be the first thing you are asked. Also be sure to drive the speed limit to your area. If you get in an accident that will be the first thing you are asked. You'll be down to 5 air stops before you know it.
Cobra Agent
Mandalorian
Do not enter your pkg car until your start time, on your start time count your air stops tell your center manager what you need help with. Put it in their hands, do your pretrip, dvir, leave bld, drive speed limit and put it on them. DO NOT enter pkg car until your start time, do not talk to your supes before your start time, and for the love of all that is holy do not leave before your start time (unless instructed to)!!!! You are being screwed because they know they can, and you leaving early is showing them that you will allow it! If they are gonna do it by the book, then you need to also. Its even better when I have to sort and load because then they dont find out I need air help until "I" load my truck after my start time. They do not pay me when I am not on the clock, so I do not work when I am not on the clock!
menotyou
bella amicizia
We all know there is never late air in the Bubble of Goodness.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Setting aside your sarcasm, we rarely if ever have late air in my center. We have an EAM driver who is then used to deliver NDA if needed. Late air is a big deal in my center.
menotyou
bella amicizia
Late air is a big deal. Period.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Based on this thread I guess the level of concern varies from center to center.
Sort and Load ..... not at my hub , you just load your truck , no more sort and load at my hub
. I did wait until 9:10 to look at air on day , found boss at 9:12 , told him to many air , he was not happy . Why did you wait so long to tell me ? Its only like 1-2 , mins pass start time , I just got on clock . I just need to play the GAME , by the rules more . 9:10 Start time
Tell Boss will have late air
drive speed limit
run smart trace
air only no ground
then there is nothing he can do it me .
Thanks for info , its just gets old , same crap , different day .
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
When you grab your DIAD, punch in and get EDD, go to the commit screen to see how much air you have---if you have too much let the center manager know. How long could that take?
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
How about the airs not listed in his DIAD?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Depending upon what time he punches in and gets EDD, all of the air should be in his EDD.
Dragon
Package Center Manager
If he is punching in at 910am and the air is not in EDD, there are a lot more issues in that building then just late air. Goochy do not lose your passion for delivering on time, keep telling them and do the best you can, try to minimize the amount that is late.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
The COMPANY made a commitment to service all air on time and the COMPANY should be doing everything in it's power to see that it happens. YOU can't make a silk purse out of a calves ear. There are some real gems running some of these operations.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
When we went from noon to 10:30 commit times back in the early 90's our start times were between 8:10 and 8:30. Now they are 9. Taking away 30% of our air delivery time is another bright mgmnt move.
