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<blockquote data-quote="JustDeliverIt" data-source="post: 3784505" data-attributes="member: 68456"><p>I agree, Sean announcing his run was not good timing IMO. Committee members being dismissed is a double edge sword. People are more informed these days and want information. I can understand why it was being put out there, not saying it was right or wrong. Can also see why unfinished language should not be highlighted until it is done. And I never said Hoffa was dumb, just don't agree with the decision to move against the majority vote.</p><p></p><p>While I agree that these things did happen, it still doesn't explain why it was imposed. People disagree politically all the time and announce their desire to change things/run for office. When Sean announced it did the negotiations on the contract stop?</p><p></p><p>When people were removed from the committee did negotiations come to a halt?</p><p></p><p>No, they negotiated like they always have. Then it was presented to the members for a vote like it always. Despite these bumps along the way, the results were all the same. Except this time when it was rejected, the same leadership from 5 years ago decided a different course then what they did with rejected issues from last vote.</p><p></p><p>Had they forced supplements 5 years ago that didn't meet the criteria last time around, I would completely agree with you and the IBT's implementation here. They would have set the precedent and it should have been a warning to the membership. They didn't. They renegotiated at least once. They did the exact opposite under the same constitution.</p><p></p><p>These outside factors you point out, while may have dragged out the process or added an element of "side show" to it, didn't affect the results. We still had a contract, we voted and we were ignored.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JustDeliverIt, post: 3784505, member: 68456"] I agree, Sean announcing his run was not good timing IMO. Committee members being dismissed is a double edge sword. People are more informed these days and want information. I can understand why it was being put out there, not saying it was right or wrong. Can also see why unfinished language should not be highlighted until it is done. And I never said Hoffa was dumb, just don't agree with the decision to move against the majority vote. While I agree that these things did happen, it still doesn't explain why it was imposed. People disagree politically all the time and announce their desire to change things/run for office. When Sean announced it did the negotiations on the contract stop? When people were removed from the committee did negotiations come to a halt? No, they negotiated like they always have. Then it was presented to the members for a vote like it always. Despite these bumps along the way, the results were all the same. Except this time when it was rejected, the same leadership from 5 years ago decided a different course then what they did with rejected issues from last vote. Had they forced supplements 5 years ago that didn't meet the criteria last time around, I would completely agree with you and the IBT's implementation here. They would have set the precedent and it should have been a warning to the membership. They didn't. They renegotiated at least once. They did the exact opposite under the same constitution. These outside factors you point out, while may have dragged out the process or added an element of "side show" to it, didn't affect the results. We still had a contract, we voted and we were ignored. [/QUOTE]
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