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Lay the Blame Where it Belongs.....The Members.
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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3785492" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>Anyone have an answer about what guidelines the union uses to determine who is an eligible voter for contract votes? Until that is clarified, I don't take for granted that a majority of members said they "don't care". How do they come up with a percentage of eligible voters when "eligible voters" is not defined? How can the numbers be verified, or even challenged? How can they invoke a 50% 2/3 rule when the term that said rule is based on is undefined?</p><p></p><p>We authorized a strike, so the assertion that the constitution required ratification under the circumstances is baseless. The General President has final say on questions about article 12, but did anyone actually ask him questions, or did everyone assume? Did he issue any statements regarding the answer to any questions? </p><p></p><p>How are non-voting members held accountable? Why do voting members get lumped in with non-voting members when assigning blame? Who is verifying that the vote was handled properly? Not just the count, but who was in charge of making sure eligible voters were sent ballots? How did they know who were eligible? Who was in charge of following up to make sure members got their ballots?</p><p></p><p>I say there's plenty of questions that need to be answered, and there is plenty of blame to go around. The only ones not to blame? Voting members. Prove me wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3785492, member: 63706"] Anyone have an answer about what guidelines the union uses to determine who is an eligible voter for contract votes? Until that is clarified, I don't take for granted that a majority of members said they "don't care". How do they come up with a percentage of eligible voters when "eligible voters" is not defined? How can the numbers be verified, or even challenged? How can they invoke a 50% 2/3 rule when the term that said rule is based on is undefined? We authorized a strike, so the assertion that the constitution required ratification under the circumstances is baseless. The General President has final say on questions about article 12, but did anyone actually ask him questions, or did everyone assume? Did he issue any statements regarding the answer to any questions? How are non-voting members held accountable? Why do voting members get lumped in with non-voting members when assigning blame? Who is verifying that the vote was handled properly? Not just the count, but who was in charge of making sure eligible voters were sent ballots? How did they know who were eligible? Who was in charge of following up to make sure members got their ballots? I say there's plenty of questions that need to be answered, and there is plenty of blame to go around. The only ones not to blame? Voting members. Prove me wrong. [/QUOTE]
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