Let's spend $96.00 an hour to solve a $9.50 an hour problem!

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I agree though 728 this is one thing that has long befuddled me. Give the preload an extra 30-60 minutes everyday and watch the drivers numbers improve.
 

nocturnalbuck

Well-Known Member
At least once a week we (drivers) get a message saying there is extra work is available on the local sort. they'd rather pay us 48$ an hour than hire . unbelievable.
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
in my experience the preload throws the packages in the car and once the route is out of the building its my fault im overallowed and have to go back to multiple stops because I cant find packages, then have to dup the stop so i get no time for those stops.how the friend is that even fair. Then I say im going to get on the list and they say im not even working 9.5 plan even though i worked 11 hours...
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
in my experience the preload throws the packages in the car and once the route is out of the building its my fault im overallowed and have to go back to multiple stops because I cant find packages, then have to dup the stop so i get no time for those stops.how the friend is that even fair. Then I say im going to get on the list and they say im not even working 9.5 plan even though i worked 11 hours...

Who cares what the plan day is. I worked about 11 today. The plan will probably say 9 hours.

I agree though all they are worried about is getting us on the road so they can blame us for anything that goes wrong after that.
 

Harry Manback

Robot Extraordinaire
in my experience the preload throws the packages in the car and once the route is out of the building its my fault im overallowed and have to go back to multiple stops because I cant find packages, then have to dup the stop so i get no time for those stops.how the friend is that even fair. Then I say im going to get on the list and they say im not even working 9.5 plan even though i worked 11 hours...

Just wait till they're paying us damn near $37 an hour. It sucks now, unbelievable, though we think it has, hasn't touched us yet.
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
im tired of them always saying "the union doesnt care about the numbers but ups does"...they give us technology to help us 10% but they want 50% more out of us with the same 10%, and if you cant do that then you are the slug...gets so fing old...sorry for rant
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
Just wait till they're paying us damn near $37 an hour. It sucks now, unbelievable, though we think it has, hasn't touched us yet.

Im sure they will say that they missed a time study going from model t's to modern package cars from 50 years ago thus loosing 6 seconds per package..lol just like when we lost the 5.8 seconds per package from going from paper to diad like 10 years after the fact...talk about total bs...do you really think ups "forgot" something like that..then on top of it we loose 5.8 seconds for pickups also which has nothing to do with sheeting packages..where does the insanity end...
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
im tired of them always saying "the union doesnt care about the numbers but ups does"...they give us technology to help us 10% but they want 50% more out of us with the same 10%, and if you cant do that then you are the slug...gets so fing old...sorry for rant


I agree. Push will come to shove eventually. When the numbers become impossible to reach (not far from where we are now) no one will care about reaching them.
 
U

uber

Guest
Its a company thats based on 'productivity'. Preload and Drivers are separate entities. Its all about the numbers baby!
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
Its a company thats based on 'productivity'. Preload and Drivers are separate entities. Its all about the numbers baby!

Dont get me wrong, productivity is a good thing, but when the numbers are not right from the get go that is where the problem lies...along with guys totally trying to dick the system...cutting corners, you know the type.
 

40 and out

Well-Known Member
Some genius decided car wash can't fuel cars even though they drive right by pumps on way to wash. So they pay us 3 to 5 minutes extra overtime each to fuel our cars. This makes sense how? For a company that supposedly values every dollar they sure do piss away an awful lot of them on stupid **** like this.
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
I agree. Push will come to shove eventually. When the numbers become impossible to reach (not far from where we are now) no one will care about reaching them.

I honestly don't thing many care right now about them...sure it bugs me when I have to hear the famous "what happen yesterday" but ups has the technology to make the time studies more accurate than they are now and they choose to not do it because they know damn good and well time would be given back and omg they might have to run an extra route...oh the insanity in doing that. It's just like sober has said on occasion about ups having odds like a casino...the house always wins...
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I agree. Push will come to shove eventually. When the numbers become impossible to reach (not far from where we are now) no one will care about reaching them.

I honestly don't thing many care right now about them...sure it bugs me when I have to hear the famous "what happen yesterday" but ups has the technology to make the time studies more accurate than they are now and they choose to not do it because they know damn good and well time would be given back and omg they might have to run an extra route...oh the insanity in doing that. It's just like sober has said on occasion about ups having odds like a casino...the house always wins...

What I find funny is "scratch" is supposed to be like a perfect day. All goes smooth u do it just as they anticipated. Then why should I ever be under scratch?
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
What I find funny is "scratch" is supposed to be like a perfect day. All goes smooth u do it just as they anticipated. Then why should I ever be under scratch?

I hear ya' I'm never close to scratch but the truck goes out bricked and comes back the same way...it's a production tool nothing less nothing more..
 
U

uber

Guest
Dont get me wrong, productivity is a good thing, but when the numbers are not right from the get go that is where the problem lies...along with guys totally trying to dick the system...cutting corners, you know the type.

I agree. But, I'm more talking about the sups/managers having good numbers for their brass. I remember when I was working part-time and they'd be pinching pennies sending people home to make their numbers look good, meanwhile they were trying to put the whip to the guys that stayed to get down in time to make their numbers. All I'm saying is that the driver side is looking out for theirs and the preload side is looking out for theirs, respectively. They both have bosses to answer to and bonuses to receive.
 

brown bomber

brown bomber
in my experience the preload throws the packages in the car and once the route is out of the building its my fault im overallowed and have to go back to multiple stops because I cant find packages, then have to dup the stop so i get no time for those stops.how the friend is that even fair. Then I say im going to get on the list and they say im not even working 9.5 plan even though i worked 11 hours...

just do what I used to do...pull up to the center Mgr., as you're departing the building...have him or her take a look at your load, and then inform them that you're going to dump your entire load in a public parking lot after you deliver your air pkgs., and then you will reload the entire load..it worked for me,...however that was several years ago
 

browntroll

Well-Known Member
yeah some sups just make no sense, i once saw one sup so concerned about getting everything in the package trucks that he
along with the preloader just threw every single envelope into the trucks floor and shut the door. the driver asked if the truck was good
the sup and preloader told him everything was just perfect driver just got in and took off. i was helping with the pick off that day
so i can see everything.
 

HEFFERNAN

Huge Member
It seems preload is not held accountable for misloads enough. I use to see preload sups everyday running misloads between cars until the union squashed it and made drivers and air drivers run them.

The preload cares about 1 number, PPH. They take all the packages the preload is running that morning and divide it by how many total hours the preload workers worked. That 1 little number defines if they had a good day or bad. They don't care if drivers load the cars, but they will kick out the preloader so they can save a couple clicks.
 
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