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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1618336" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>We see Hitler from the view of "after the fact" and the same is true of Mussolini but in their day before WW2 both men were even greatly admired by other world leaders including Churchill and our own FDR. Less we forget, the world even gave Germany the 1936' Olympics in order for the world to marvel. Had history played out along a different line, our view of Hitler and Mussolini today just well might reflect the same view as many held into the latter mid-1930's when things started to go sour.</p><p></p><p>I often say, read the <a href="http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Doctrine of Fascism</strong></span></a> written by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile and see if it doesn't have a rather familiar ring to it relating to our world today. What we often condemn under one name is almost exactly what we are doing albeit under a different name. </p><p></p><p>Even the symbol of Fascism, the Fasces, is a major part of our own American heraldry. Look on the wall behind the <a href="http://okwu.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/keating-center/files/2013/04/senatehouse.png" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>podium in the House of Congress</strong></span></a>, or on a <a href="https://drkatesview.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dime.jpg" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>US Dime</strong></span></a> from your pocket, or on <a href="http://www.wisdom-square.com/images/ao4f1ec9b6.jpg" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Abraham Lincoln's statue</strong></span></a> (look upon which his hands rest on the Lincoln memorial) in Washington DC. In all 3 cases, this symbolism existed before that of Mussolini and Hitler. In the case of the dime which is from 1946', the earlier "Mercury Dime" had it as well. </p><p></p><p>The symbol of the Fasces comes from the ancient Etruscan civilization of Northern Italy (800 BCE to 400 BCE) and then absorbed and taken as symbol by the Roman Empire for which it is well known. The symbol represents the power of the magistrate and the jurisdiction there of. Proclaiming one's self as a Fascist is nothing more than proclaiming that you are ruled by someone else as you are unable to govern yourself. It's monarchy albeit expressed in another form, in our case, a form of oligarchy with the power to act as monarch. </p><p></p><p>"But we elect ours!" True but then who foots the bill for the whole process from whence our only 2 choices emerge? See Doctrine of Fascism for a hint! <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>We rarely create anything new, we just call it by another name and thus we think it new but the symbolism stays the same often betraying its historical roots and true grounding.</p><p></p><p>To quote Ecclesiates 1:9:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Funny as we march through time how true that statement becomes. Maybe the writer of Ecclesiates understood that people don't know nor do they want to know history and the actions of the past. Thus they are so often doomed to repeat them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1618336, member: 2189"] We see Hitler from the view of "after the fact" and the same is true of Mussolini but in their day before WW2 both men were even greatly admired by other world leaders including Churchill and our own FDR. Less we forget, the world even gave Germany the 1936' Olympics in order for the world to marvel. Had history played out along a different line, our view of Hitler and Mussolini today just well might reflect the same view as many held into the latter mid-1930's when things started to go sour. I often say, read the [URL='http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]Doctrine of Fascism[/B][/COLOR][/URL] written by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile and see if it doesn't have a rather familiar ring to it relating to our world today. What we often condemn under one name is almost exactly what we are doing albeit under a different name. Even the symbol of Fascism, the Fasces, is a major part of our own American heraldry. Look on the wall behind the [URL='http://okwu.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/keating-center/files/2013/04/senatehouse.png'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]podium in the House of Congress[/B][/COLOR][/URL], or on a [URL='https://drkatesview.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dime.jpg'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]US Dime[/B][/COLOR][/URL] from your pocket, or on [URL='http://www.wisdom-square.com/images/ao4f1ec9b6.jpg'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]Abraham Lincoln's statue[/B][/COLOR][/URL] (look upon which his hands rest on the Lincoln memorial) in Washington DC. In all 3 cases, this symbolism existed before that of Mussolini and Hitler. In the case of the dime which is from 1946', the earlier "Mercury Dime" had it as well. The symbol of the Fasces comes from the ancient Etruscan civilization of Northern Italy (800 BCE to 400 BCE) and then absorbed and taken as symbol by the Roman Empire for which it is well known. The symbol represents the power of the magistrate and the jurisdiction there of. Proclaiming one's self as a Fascist is nothing more than proclaiming that you are ruled by someone else as you are unable to govern yourself. It's monarchy albeit expressed in another form, in our case, a form of oligarchy with the power to act as monarch. "But we elect ours!" True but then who foots the bill for the whole process from whence our only 2 choices emerge? See Doctrine of Fascism for a hint! ;) We rarely create anything new, we just call it by another name and thus we think it new but the symbolism stays the same often betraying its historical roots and true grounding. To quote Ecclesiates 1:9: Funny as we march through time how true that statement becomes. Maybe the writer of Ecclesiates understood that people don't know nor do they want to know history and the actions of the past. Thus they are so often doomed to repeat them. [/QUOTE]
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