Little document passed around my hub tonight

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by fussypucker, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. fussypucker

    fussypucker New Member

    A document was handed to me tonight by my supervisor, it read something like this "As a loader, I acknowledge that it is my responsibility to check at least 5 small packages within each bag to ensure all packages are heading to the correct location, I understand that if I fail to do so, I may face disciplinary action." I needed to print my name and then sign it, however I told my Sup that I refused to sign. What is this? And can anything happen to me because I refused to sign. Seems to me UPS is trying to attain a right to fire an employee for misleads now.
     
  2. Old Man Jingles

    Old Man Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Probably just phishing for malcontents!
    Or
    Starting a new campaign... got any higher boss new to your area?
    If so, then ‘trying some old tricks’ is due to new guy.

    Talk to some old timers and ask them.
     
  3. Big Package

    Big Package Handler

    Phishing ploy. I hope nobody signed. That wouldn't stand up to a grievance, I'd think. What bull:censored2:.
     
  4. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Deplorable.

    The master prohibits any extra-contractual agreements.

    Sign, dont sign, it doesn't matter.
     
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  5. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    You don't have to sign anything out there , but forms required by the government.
     
  6. km3

    km3 Well-Known Member

    I wonder how they would enforce that... How can they prove that you only checked 4 packages, and not 5? Are you supposed to grab your sup each time a bag comes down and check in front of him/her? Is looking through the small bag sufficient, or do you need to open the bag, take the packages out, and then put them back in and zip the bag when you're finished? Surely management must acknowledge that a bag with 20 pieces may have 5 pieces destined for the trailer the bag lands in, but with the other 15 being for some other load...and that those 5 pieces are, coincidentally, the ones you checked.

    One could have a lot of fun with something like this...
     
  7. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Well.... the OLD one did....
     
  8. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    Only things you should sign at UPS are your paychecks and retirement forms.
     
  9. PeakMode

    PeakMode Arrive Peak Leave

    Training and a physical UPS check is the only thing you need to sign. I would threaten to file just off princple.
     
  10. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    NMA
    Article 6

    Section 1. Extra Contract Agreements
    Except as may be otherwise provided in this Agreement, the Employer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agreement or contract with its employees, either individually or col- lectively, or to require or attempt to require employees to sign any document, either individually or collectively, which in any way conflicts with the provisions of this Agreement. Any such Agreement or document shall be null and void. Any such agreement or document may not be placed in an employee’s file or used by the Employer as a basis for discipline or used in connection with any disciplinary proceeding, nor may any such agreement or document nor the contents thereof be divulged to any person or entity.
    In addition, the Company will not discipline an employee for refus- ing to sign any Company form related to the principle of a fair day’s work
    unless the signing is required by law or by this Agreement.


    Pass this on to your preloaders and be empowered, not weak minded slaves.
     
  11. BadIdeaGuy

    BadIdeaGuy Coronavirus? What coronavirus?

    I really hope the new supervisor at our center tries something like this. :happy-very:

    OP, don't sign it, unless you are under 30 days.
    If you're that new, just do whatever they say, cause they can throw you out, anyway.

    But if you aren't, then laughing at the supervisor is probably appropriate.

    I don't stir the pot much because supervisors hold grudges, but that one's just silly, and they probably know it.
     
  12. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    Don't sign, but do add your own language to the sheet.
     
  13. Rick Ross

    Rick Ross I'm into distribution!!

    That is how I was trained to load but we we're never asked to sign a sheet.
     
  14. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    All you are signing is that it was reviewed with you. They are putting in writing a method to the job. Supe should write the date reviewed and write“refused to sign”.
     
  15. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    When situations like this happened years ago we used to all sign the resident suck asses name. Every center has one.
     
  16. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member

    Request a Steward and even if they are agreeing or forcing signature write V.C. then your name.

    Or sign your name then put "- Under Duress"
     
  17. The Range

    The Range In too deep

    File that one in the bin of stupidity along with sorters marking packages. Checking 5 packages in every bag would earn UPS a pph of 100 in most loads. Loaders aren't required to know their loads with the advent of smart scanners. What good would looking at 5 labels do?
     
  18. eats packages

    eats packages I have depth perception issues

    I would gladly comply lololol
    We get see-through surepost bags. Very quick to spot one address on it. 5 is rediculous.
     
  19. bumped

    bumped Well-Known Member

    Dump the sure post bags out and load each package individually
     
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  20. Over disciplined0123

    Over disciplined0123 Active Member

    I have signed ridiculous documents from ups like that before Sign and write under protest .