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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1282323" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>From reading the story Brett linked, she may have been her own worst enemy when she went public in local media. After that, the Hounds of Hell came down on her. Same to a degree for Eustace Conway who lived quietly, mostly consider an eccentric oddball and ignored but when he opened his property up to teaching others, that's when his quiet paradise became his personal hell so to speak. So much for the illusion of free speech.</p><p></p><p>You are correct that she was never completely off the grid, the fact that she was eating processed food made in industrial assembly lines speaks to that much less the point you rightly made about the sewer. In a remote location, off grid is easier because it's the only way you can live there but in a more urban or suburban setting, one can stay on the gird so to speak, mostly to keep the dogs of dominance at bay while still learning the strong and weak points of your ideas of living. She could use composting toilets and urine mixed with greywater could be used as beneficial to various planting beds. I understand Cape Coral may have now capped her sewage pipe and she's claiming this as evil. That may well be but if she creates a solution that puts zero waste into any water system, she may realize the law itself just removed her from their jurisdiction.</p><p></p><p>There is another interesting aspect to this story and to what it ultimately means I don't have that answer. In the last paragraph in the story Brett linked, there is mention of an overriding law code that governs this situation and it's called by name in the "International Property Maintenance Code". I've also seen this mentioned on other stories on this subject. My initial looking into this subject suggests this "Code" came into being in 2011' (but that's not in stone either) and it seems to have it's foundation in international as opposed to national much less state or local law. My guess is this code establishes it's authority from an international agreement or treaty. So far that is what I've come to learn of this code but I plan on looking more into this in the future as my own goal is to go off grid and I mean way off grid. </p><p></p><p>Just like most law benefits economic interests, so to could this code also serve that purpose but just on an international scale and with self service to multinational corp. interests who free markets for themselves while leaving the rest of us trapped in collectivism eating at each other because of a created scarcity. The Bechtel Corp. water laws in Bolivia for example that made it illegal to even capture and drink rainwater is a hint in that direction and don't think that <a href="http://www.offgridworld.com/rainwater-harvesting-off-grid/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>could never happen here</strong></span></a> either. The Bolivians to their credit revolted and ended that lunacy as I understand it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1282323, member: 2189"] From reading the story Brett linked, she may have been her own worst enemy when she went public in local media. After that, the Hounds of Hell came down on her. Same to a degree for Eustace Conway who lived quietly, mostly consider an eccentric oddball and ignored but when he opened his property up to teaching others, that's when his quiet paradise became his personal hell so to speak. So much for the illusion of free speech. You are correct that she was never completely off the grid, the fact that she was eating processed food made in industrial assembly lines speaks to that much less the point you rightly made about the sewer. In a remote location, off grid is easier because it's the only way you can live there but in a more urban or suburban setting, one can stay on the gird so to speak, mostly to keep the dogs of dominance at bay while still learning the strong and weak points of your ideas of living. She could use composting toilets and urine mixed with greywater could be used as beneficial to various planting beds. I understand Cape Coral may have now capped her sewage pipe and she's claiming this as evil. That may well be but if she creates a solution that puts zero waste into any water system, she may realize the law itself just removed her from their jurisdiction. There is another interesting aspect to this story and to what it ultimately means I don't have that answer. In the last paragraph in the story Brett linked, there is mention of an overriding law code that governs this situation and it's called by name in the "International Property Maintenance Code". I've also seen this mentioned on other stories on this subject. My initial looking into this subject suggests this "Code" came into being in 2011' (but that's not in stone either) and it seems to have it's foundation in international as opposed to national much less state or local law. My guess is this code establishes it's authority from an international agreement or treaty. So far that is what I've come to learn of this code but I plan on looking more into this in the future as my own goal is to go off grid and I mean way off grid. Just like most law benefits economic interests, so to could this code also serve that purpose but just on an international scale and with self service to multinational corp. interests who free markets for themselves while leaving the rest of us trapped in collectivism eating at each other because of a created scarcity. The Bechtel Corp. water laws in Bolivia for example that made it illegal to even capture and drink rainwater is a hint in that direction and don't think that [URL='http://www.offgridworld.com/rainwater-harvesting-off-grid/'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]could never happen here[/B][/COLOR][/URL] either. The Bolivians to their credit revolted and ended that lunacy as I understand it. [/QUOTE]
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