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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Spider" data-source="post: 1302228" data-attributes="member: 52461">No b.s. here, island.&nbsp; You&#039;re right, it&#039;s not important enough to go back and look, but it was me who originally put you in the &quot;hypothetical&quot; of being in Maspeth.&nbsp; I don&#039;t, however, believe that you&#039;ve yet raised a point that &quot;went over my head&quot; and I would never characterize the solidarity within the labor movement as being &quot;rah rah unity bs.&nbsp; Nor would I characterize that solidarity as &quot;Blind following the Dumb over a cliff&quot;.&nbsp; For every guy out there who is &quot;gaming the system day in -- day out&quot;, there are 10 supervisors pointing at another 50 guys each who they claim are &quot;gaming the system day in -- day out!&nbsp; And guys like you, island, are buying right into it!&nbsp; So the people who are doing a disservice to their Union are that guy who is &quot;gaming the system&quot; AND the guy who is exacerbating the situation by making unfounded allegations about the Maspeth drivers!&nbsp; Of course, YOU would have evaluated the dismissal to determine if it was warranted, and would have had more&nbsp; courage and stayed.&nbsp; That would suggest that those drivers who walked out did not evaluate and/or did not have enough personal knowledge of the work ethic of their co-worker to know that it was time to take action.While I disagree with much of what you say, I do have a degree of respect for the way you present it.&nbsp; There are others on this thread who see the Maspeth walkout as a political opportunity to call for the resignation of the Executive Board and point fingers at anyone who appears to support the Board.&nbsp; It&#039;s just a bit silly for someone who posts as &quot;not what I voted for&quot; to expect to be taken for anything but a political opportunist.As for the &quot;Jose&quot; issue, don&#039;t worry about it.&nbsp; Yes, you inadvertently made the initial mistake and I inadvertently repeated it, but I think the criticism was directed more at me because of that political opportunism thing!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brown Spider, post: 1302228, member: 52461"] No b.s. here, island. You're right, it's not important enough to go back and look, but it was me who originally put you in the "hypothetical" of being in Maspeth. I don't, however, believe that you've yet raised a point that "went over my head" and I would never characterize the solidarity within the labor movement as being "rah rah unity bs. Nor would I characterize that solidarity as "Blind following the Dumb over a cliff". For every guy out there who is "gaming the system day in -- day out", there are 10 supervisors pointing at another 50 guys each who they claim are "gaming the system day in -- day out! And guys like you, island, are buying right into it! So the people who are doing a disservice to their Union are that guy who is "gaming the system" AND the guy who is exacerbating the situation by making unfounded allegations about the Maspeth drivers! Of course, YOU would have evaluated the dismissal to determine if it was warranted, and would have had more courage and stayed. That would suggest that those drivers who walked out did not evaluate and/or did not have enough personal knowledge of the work ethic of their co-worker to know that it was time to take action. While I disagree with much of what you say, I do have a degree of respect for the way you present it. There are others on this thread who see the Maspeth walkout as a political opportunity to call for the resignation of the Executive Board and point fingers at anyone who appears to support the Board. It's just a bit silly for someone who posts as "not what I voted for" to expect to be taken for anything but a political opportunist. As for the "Jose" issue, don't worry about it. Yes, you inadvertently made the initial mistake and I inadvertently repeated it, but I think the criticism was directed more at me because of that political opportunism thing! [/QUOTE]

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