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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Spider" data-source="post: 1303531" data-attributes="member: 52461">The language in Article 18, Section 4 of the Local 804 Supplement is pretty damn clear.&nbsp; There&#039;s just not a lot of room for an interpretation that differs from the intent.&nbsp; It&#039;s now not a matter of interpretation, but a matter of enforcement.&nbsp; Pretty much the same would apply to the pension increase issue.&nbsp; But what would you have suggested that our elected leaders do at the bargaining table, member 6045?&nbsp; Once they reached a tentative agreement on the pension issue, should they have then said, &quot;ya know what UPS, we don&#039;t think you&#039;re really going to&nbsp; increase the pension.&nbsp; You&#039;re going to tell us it can&#039;t be done, so we&#039;re withdrawing our proposal for an increase.&nbsp; Hah, take that UPS!&quot;I gotta&#039; tell ya&#039;, member 6045, you&#039;ve got to stop chasing those demons around the playground of your mind like Don Quixote chasing windmills in the pasture!&nbsp; And as for your textbook list of 12?&nbsp; I&#039;d just like to draw your attention to #4.&nbsp; While you and bigd may not have noticed, UPS does indeed suck!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brown Spider, post: 1303531, member: 52461"] The language in Article 18, Section 4 of the Local 804 Supplement is pretty damn clear. There's just not a lot of room for an interpretation that differs from the intent. It's now not a matter of interpretation, but a matter of enforcement. Pretty much the same would apply to the pension increase issue. But what would you have suggested that our elected leaders do at the bargaining table, member 6045? Once they reached a tentative agreement on the pension issue, should they have then said, "ya know what UPS, we don't think you're really going to increase the pension. You're going to tell us it can't be done, so we're withdrawing our proposal for an increase. Hah, take that UPS!" I gotta' tell ya', member 6045, you've got to stop chasing those demons around the playground of your mind like Don Quixote chasing windmills in the pasture! And as for your textbook list of 12? I'd just like to draw your attention to #4. While you and bigd may not have noticed, UPS does indeed suck! [/QUOTE]

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