Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
Local 878 Members - Southern Supplement
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="BrownMonk" data-source="post: 5671379" data-attributes="member: 66576"><p>I will not try to talk you out of your opinion but I can add some context to this.</p><p></p><p>Most of the time, a sitting arbitrator is a proposal from the Union so long as it is suspension and discharge only. The company usually rejects it because of the cost involved in paying half for the arbitrator to sit on every panel(around $4000-$6000 per day) for every panel. The positive for the Union is that the discharged employee doesn't have to sit out an additional 6-9 months for a decision from an individual case. Additionally, it forces the company to put on a real case at panel instead of relying on their side to deadlock and keep the employee out longer. In most of my experience, the company half asses a case knowing that the higher ups have already agreed to deadlock it or a loser to the grievant. The only money UPS would save would be a lawyer. </p><p></p><p>Again, if the company is mad at an employee or proving a point, they deadlock it and offer them a deal before arbitration after suffering months of no pay and benefits. Most guys take the deal because they can't afford to stay out even if they are in the right because you don't know what an arbitrator will do. I had the same reservations about a sitting arbitrator at ours before I saw it in action.</p><p></p><p>As far as "cardinal sins" being "expanded", your contract language for the arbitrator should say something about the arbitrator not having the right to expand the contract and must interpret it as is. So long as you have that, it can always be challenged in court.</p><p></p><p> JMHO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownMonk, post: 5671379, member: 66576"] I will not try to talk you out of your opinion but I can add some context to this. Most of the time, a sitting arbitrator is a proposal from the Union so long as it is suspension and discharge only. The company usually rejects it because of the cost involved in paying half for the arbitrator to sit on every panel(around $4000-$6000 per day) for every panel. The positive for the Union is that the discharged employee doesn't have to sit out an additional 6-9 months for a decision from an individual case. Additionally, it forces the company to put on a real case at panel instead of relying on their side to deadlock and keep the employee out longer. In most of my experience, the company half asses a case knowing that the higher ups have already agreed to deadlock it or a loser to the grievant. The only money UPS would save would be a lawyer. Again, if the company is mad at an employee or proving a point, they deadlock it and offer them a deal before arbitration after suffering months of no pay and benefits. Most guys take the deal because they can't afford to stay out even if they are in the right because you don't know what an arbitrator will do. I had the same reservations about a sitting arbitrator at ours before I saw it in action. As far as "cardinal sins" being "expanded", your contract language for the arbitrator should say something about the arbitrator not having the right to expand the contract and must interpret it as is. So long as you have that, it can always be challenged in court. JMHO [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
Local 878 Members - Southern Supplement
Top