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<blockquote data-quote="Catatonic" data-source="post: 933416" data-attributes="member: 7966"><p>I understand your feeling towards Libertarians as a viable party in today's political structure her in the US.</p><p>The US is locked into a "two major party system" it seems for most of it's entire existence but at certain times there were three or more viable party systems.</p><p>The National government does not allow for proportional representation</p><p>As late as Perot there was a third party that made a difference. I Perot had not run in 1992, Bill Clinton would have lost the election with about 45% of the vote instead of winning as he did with 43% of the vote.</p><p></p><p>As such the Libertarian Party has very little chance of ever getting elected at the National level.</p><p>It does however have the ability to influence one or more of the major two parties in their platforms and goals.</p><p></p><p>You seem to imply that the Democratic party and the Republican party have pure belief systems and that they stick to these principles as "infallible". That is certainly not the case recently and in the last hundred years.</p><p>I am sure you have heard the phrase, "Governance is the art of compromise."</p><p>There does not seem to be that much art in the government lately as the "Tea Party" influence has stood in the way of much compromise.</p><p></p><p>So I reject your assertion that "Libertarianism is fatally flawed beginning with the premise that the "free market" is infallible. It all goes downhill from there. Like I said, it only "works" in a utopian dream world that will never exist." Libertarianism is an ideological movement that is having an influence on more and more voters in the USA especially, but not limited to, the Independent voters.</p><p></p><p>I have been a Libertarian for over 20 years and vote Libertarian every chance I get. I have voted for a Libertarian for President in every election since Reagan. I am persistent and I keep plugging every chance I get. </p><p>I will not accept the inevitability of the Democrats or the Republicans.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Catatonic, post: 933416, member: 7966"] I understand your feeling towards Libertarians as a viable party in today's political structure her in the US. The US is locked into a "two major party system" it seems for most of it's entire existence but at certain times there were three or more viable party systems. The National government does not allow for proportional representation As late as Perot there was a third party that made a difference. I Perot had not run in 1992, Bill Clinton would have lost the election with about 45% of the vote instead of winning as he did with 43% of the vote. As such the Libertarian Party has very little chance of ever getting elected at the National level. It does however have the ability to influence one or more of the major two parties in their platforms and goals. You seem to imply that the Democratic party and the Republican party have pure belief systems and that they stick to these principles as "infallible". That is certainly not the case recently and in the last hundred years. I am sure you have heard the phrase, "Governance is the art of compromise." There does not seem to be that much art in the government lately as the "Tea Party" influence has stood in the way of much compromise. So I reject your assertion that "Libertarianism is fatally flawed beginning with the premise that the "free market" is infallible. It all goes downhill from there. Like I said, it only "works" in a utopian dream world that will never exist." Libertarianism is an ideological movement that is having an influence on more and more voters in the USA especially, but not limited to, the Independent voters. I have been a Libertarian for over 20 years and vote Libertarian every chance I get. I have voted for a Libertarian for President in every election since Reagan. I am persistent and I keep plugging every chance I get. I will not accept the inevitability of the Democrats or the Republicans. [/QUOTE]
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