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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 934650" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I would agree with that. More and more mainline christian churches see no conflict with evolution and their faith and they would be right. However, many of those churches don't hold a literalist view of the creation story so I would think this makes the process much easier.</p><p></p><p>One point I did want to make to MFE concerning an earlier comment he made in the conflict between evolution and creationism. Creationism is telling the story of how time, space and matter came to be and thus life as we know it came to be. Evolution itself IMO does not tell or suggest how time, space and matter came to be but it does tell how life as we know it today came to be. Evolution does theorize a beginning point for life, the primordial soup if you will, but there is no empirical evidence at this time to prove the exact event in which that took place. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">search</span></a> is still on to answer that question. As to the transitional fossil record, genetic record and other research of the evolutionary process, the evidence IMO is overwhelming but that's me.</p><p></p><p>As to the actual point of creation of time, space and matter, the debate IMO should be between the Big Bang and the Creation story. Neither side can prove an exact cause with empirical evidence of the flash point that started it all but the race now is to understand the otherside of that flashpoint and if that answer is found, it could well change the debate. Stephen Hawking <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7976594/Stephen-Hawking-God-was-not-needed-to-create-the-Universe.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">fired the first salvo</span></a> towards the answer to that great question. And in fairness, Hawking's views on religion and faith should be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking#Religious_views" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">considered</span></a> as well.</p><p></p><p>Also it's a general practice by some to suggest because the term "theory" is used would suggest nothing is proven but if that's the case how do you explain gravitational theory or germ theory? What about nuclear or atomic theory? Is that a fiction coming out of your wall outlet to power your computer? Did the people of Japan just dream up the events of August 1945? Just saying as a general point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 934650, member: 2189"] I would agree with that. More and more mainline christian churches see no conflict with evolution and their faith and they would be right. However, many of those churches don't hold a literalist view of the creation story so I would think this makes the process much easier. One point I did want to make to MFE concerning an earlier comment he made in the conflict between evolution and creationism. Creationism is telling the story of how time, space and matter came to be and thus life as we know it came to be. Evolution itself IMO does not tell or suggest how time, space and matter came to be but it does tell how life as we know it today came to be. Evolution does theorize a beginning point for life, the primordial soup if you will, but there is no empirical evidence at this time to prove the exact event in which that took place. The [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis"][COLOR=#ff0000]search[/COLOR][/URL] is still on to answer that question. As to the transitional fossil record, genetic record and other research of the evolutionary process, the evidence IMO is overwhelming but that's me. As to the actual point of creation of time, space and matter, the debate IMO should be between the Big Bang and the Creation story. Neither side can prove an exact cause with empirical evidence of the flash point that started it all but the race now is to understand the otherside of that flashpoint and if that answer is found, it could well change the debate. Stephen Hawking [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7976594/Stephen-Hawking-God-was-not-needed-to-create-the-Universe.html"][COLOR=#ff0000]fired the first salvo[/COLOR][/URL] towards the answer to that great question. And in fairness, Hawking's views on religion and faith should be [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking#Religious_views"][COLOR=#ff0000]considered[/COLOR][/URL] as well. Also it's a general practice by some to suggest because the term "theory" is used would suggest nothing is proven but if that's the case how do you explain gravitational theory or germ theory? What about nuclear or atomic theory? Is that a fiction coming out of your wall outlet to power your computer? Did the people of Japan just dream up the events of August 1945? Just saying as a general point. [/QUOTE]
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