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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JJinVA" data-source="post: 4592814" data-attributes="member: 80301"><p>Not at all. Im CERTAIN there is police abuse. And Im also certain that it gets dealt with much of the time, not all of the time. Again, Im no worshipper of the police. Ive had my ass kicked by the police before myself. (In all honesty, I signed myself up for the ass-whipping so I dont hold a grudge but nevertheless). What I am arguing is that ALL people who are corrupt should face justice, including officers. I think that its BS for police to hold "internal investigations into wrong-doing" when there is a civil complaint against them. Should be conducted by an oversight org and made public. I just dont think its anywhere near as rampant as the media hypes it up to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>