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<blockquote data-quote="magoo57" data-source="post: 271376" data-attributes="member: 4661"><p>H harry, let me restate: A prospective should have three years' of experience at UPS if he/she has never had any experience being in charge of other persons. Just being in college does not make you a leader of men and women. Having to give orders that other human beings may not wan to hear is the only way to show leadership experience. Whether that experience is a shift leader at McDonalds or an E5 in the military, or the mother of a two year old.(The latter may be the BEST experience at showing qualification to be a UPS supe)</p><p>It is the supe's responsibility to stop the n/c n/s but if the chain of command is letting you twist in the wind on a Friday night or a Sunday noonday, the supe is S.O.L.. I never allowed this even when my chain of command wasn't thrilled to follow up. The reason was that for a long time a person FAR above my paygrade told me that he would write up any supe who was greived for working unless that supe could prove how hard he tried to resolve the situation in some other way.</p><p>But I still stand by my original statement. Some days it is tougher to crawl out of bed and go to the cardboard mines. On those days the thought of not screwing your teammates should motivate the individual. A supe can even do a "training session" where the teamster sits and watches the p/t supe demonstrates proper technique so the person can rest his exhausted body for 5 or 10 minutes. Perfectly correct and shows that fine line that workers look for in a supe. "I know how hard you work. I would help you if I was allowed, but I can't"</p><p>Also, a supe should have as part of his evals his workgroup's attendance % as well as the turnover ratio for any UPSer with less than one year with the company. Hit us in the wallet and see the change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="magoo57, post: 271376, member: 4661"] H harry, let me restate: A prospective should have three years' of experience at UPS if he/she has never had any experience being in charge of other persons. Just being in college does not make you a leader of men and women. Having to give orders that other human beings may not wan to hear is the only way to show leadership experience. Whether that experience is a shift leader at McDonalds or an E5 in the military, or the mother of a two year old.(The latter may be the BEST experience at showing qualification to be a UPS supe) It is the supe's responsibility to stop the n/c n/s but if the chain of command is letting you twist in the wind on a Friday night or a Sunday noonday, the supe is S.O.L.. I never allowed this even when my chain of command wasn't thrilled to follow up. The reason was that for a long time a person FAR above my paygrade told me that he would write up any supe who was greived for working unless that supe could prove how hard he tried to resolve the situation in some other way. But I still stand by my original statement. Some days it is tougher to crawl out of bed and go to the cardboard mines. On those days the thought of not screwing your teammates should motivate the individual. A supe can even do a "training session" where the teamster sits and watches the p/t supe demonstrates proper technique so the person can rest his exhausted body for 5 or 10 minutes. Perfectly correct and shows that fine line that workers look for in a supe. "I know how hard you work. I would help you if I was allowed, but I can't" Also, a supe should have as part of his evals his workgroup's attendance % as well as the turnover ratio for any UPSer with less than one year with the company. Hit us in the wallet and see the change. [/QUOTE]
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