management who smoke but don't pay extra insurance

Discussion in 'UPS Partners' started by UPSmechanicinblue, Mar 28, 2015.

  1. UPSmechanicinblue

    UPSmechanicinblue Active Member

    what's the recourse for this? how does insurance find out?
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Some nosy person calls their toll free number and tells them?

    This is called insurance fraud and the recourse could be quite costly, both in terms of dollars and quite possibly their livelihood.
  3. Mr.Golden

    Mr.Golden Active Member

    I believe the insurance finds out when u die. The present of nicotine in the body. That's why they ask that. If u say no and u do then your family can't receive the benefits
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The only way they would find out if nicotine is present in the body is if there were an autopsy performed.
  5. UPSmechanicinblue

    UPSmechanicinblue Active Member

    Health insurance not life
  6. beentheredonethat

    beentheredonethat Well-Known Member

    It's mostly honor system. However, I know that when we sign up and the have the questions for smoker or not. They indicate they penalty is pretty severe, (up to and including discharge). I'm sure that also, in the event a person goes to a doctor for lung issues and the insurance sees they didn't indicate being a smoker, this could be a big red flag.
  7. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    Where did you do your residency?
    A simple diagnostic done on drawn blood can detect nicotine.
    This can be done on a living person.
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  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Go back and read my post in the context in which it was made.
  9. FTBrown

    FTBrown New Member

    Sounds like this would be an "Integrity" issue which would lead up to an include discharge.
  10. SignificantOwner

    SignificantOwner A Package Center Manager

    How does anyone know what someone else actually reported for tobacco use status? Be careful, everyone knows what happens when one assumes.
  11. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Cotinine test are in order!
  12. UPSmechanicinblue

    UPSmechanicinblue Active Member

    no ones looking to report anyone-some are concerned-no one assuming
  13. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    They do these all the time with life insurance, no reason they couldn't order them done randomly.
  14. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    You in Management?
  15. UPSmechanicinblue

    UPSmechanicinblue Active Member