Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by instantK, Feb 7, 2013.
Should be fun!
12"+ in some areas
26" inches in mine. And, I'll shovel every inch of it.
26" wow thats insane....
UPS Freight has already told their drivers to stay home and be safe tomorrow.
Our winter storm watch has been downgraded to a winter weather advisory. 4-8" expected through Saturday. Yawn.
All it means for me is rain, and a whole lot of it.
81 as a high today. yawn.
I'm in the middle of CT
The forecast sounds worse and worse every time I check on it. I have to assume we won't be put out there , but Hurricane Sandy didn't stop them either.
I've got a lot of family in NE (Connecticut, Vermont and New Hampshire) and, I gotta be honest here, I'm jealous of the winters you guys get. Granted, winter driving sucks, but seeing as how I have the option to stay off the roads I'm still able to love big snowfalls. I'm sure you guys get sick of it but it's such a pretty view when you're on the outside looking in (or the inside looking out, depending on your point of view).
A potentially historic Nor'easter is brewing for the Northeast U.S., where blizzard watches are up for
much of eastern Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. The storm, dubbed "Nemo" by the
Weather Channel, is expected to bring heavy snows of 1 - 2 feet, coastal wind gusts over hurricane force, and moderate to major coastal flooding.
During the peak of the storm, Friday night into Saturday morning, snowfall rates of 2 - 3" per hour
can be expected. These intense bursts of snow may be accompanied by lightning and thunder.
The cites of Boston, Hartford, Providence, Portland, and Burlington are all likely to get more than
a foot of snow, and two feet of snow will probably fall along a swath from the western
suburbs of Boston to Southwest Maine.
With the Nor'easter generating these heavy snows expected to bomb out with a central
pressure of 972 - 976 mb, the rapid flow of air around this low pressure center will generate
ferocious sustained winds near 50 mph at the coast, with wind gusts in excess of hurricane
The combination of heavy snow and high winds will make travel extremely dangerous or
impossible, with near-zero visibility in white-out conditions.
Total snowfall from the storm is likely to rank in the top ten for Boston since weather
observations began at Logan Airport in 1936.
Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog : Historic Nor'easter poised to slam Boston and the Northeast U.S. | Weather Underground
There should be two areas of "jackpot" snow depths.
One being where the backbent warm front sets up and mid-level deformation occurs. This will probably be the east slope of the Berkshires, through the foothills of S NH.
The second and worst area is most likely Interstate 128/495 in Massachusetts, SW W or NW of Boston.
Easily 20" if not up to 40" for a few spots. In Eastern Mass, there's going to be 40+mph wind if not up to 80mph. This is probably a high-end blizzard, at least low-end (if there is such a thing)
Ah, here we go. Apparently BOX agrees.
FXUS61 KBOX 072351
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA
651 PM EST THU FEB 7 2013
A HISTORIC WINTER STORM AND BLIZZARD IS ANTICIPATED FOR FRIDAY
INTO SATURDAY...WITH AROUND 2 FEET OF SNOW POSSIBLE. THIS STORM
SHOULD COME TO AN END LATER SATURDAY. DRY WEATHER RETURNS BY
SUNDAY. A GREAT LAKES STORM WILL SWING A COLD FRONT THROUGH NEW
ENGLAND ON MONDAY NIGHT...FOLLOWED BY DRY WEATHER TUESDAY.
.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM FRIDAY MORNING/...
630 PM UPDATE...
1038 MB HIGH CENTERED OVER QUEBEC AND EXTENDS ACROSS NEW ENGLAND.
PLENTY OF COLD DRY AIR WITH DEWPOINTS IN THE SINGLE NUMBERS
ABOVE/BELOW ZERO. THE HIGH WILL SHIFT EAST A LITTLE
OVERNIGHT...EXTENDING ALONG AN ARC FROM QUEBEC TO THE MARITIMES.
THIS WILL BE A CLASSIC SETUP FOR THE WEATHER TO FOLLOW ON FRIDAY.
THE COLD AIR WILL REMAIN OVER SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND THROUGH THE
NIGHT. CLOUDS HAVE MOVED ACROSS THE REGION AND WILL SLOWLY THICKEN
AND LOWER THROUGH THE NIGHT AS WARM ADVECTION ALOFT INCREASES.
ONLY SMALL AJUSTMENTS TO THE FORECAST TEMPS AND DEWPOINTS.
.SHORT TERM /6 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY/...
HEADLINES /HIGH CONFIDENCE/...
* A POTENTIAL HISTORIC WINTER STORM/BLIZZARD WILL IMPACT SOUTHERN
NEW ENGLAND FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY...WHICH WILL POSE THREATS
TOWARDS LIFE AND PROPERTY.
* BLIZZARD WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF CT...RI...AND E/SE MA.
WINTER STORM WARNINGS FOR ALL OTHER LOCALES.
* FOR THOSE AREAS WITHIN THE BLIZZARD WARNING...HIGH WIND WARNING
CRITERIA IS INCLUSIVE. HIGH WINDS SHOULD BE ANTICIPATED WITH GUSTS
OF AROUND 60 MPH.
* STORM SNOWFALL TOTALS BY STORMS END MAY BE IN THE ALL-TIME TOP
10 FOR VARIOUS CITIES...UP TO AROUND 2 TO 3 FEET POSSIBLE.
BLOWING AND DRIFTING ANTICIPATED RESULTING IN DRIFTS UP TO
AROUND 5 FEET.
* TRAVEL CONDITIONS WILL DETERIORATE QUICKLY THROUGH THE DAY
FRIDAY...BECOMING NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE BY THE FRIDAY EVENING COMMUTE
DETERMINISTIC MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE ALL IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH
THE CONSISTENT ECMWF. WILL LEAN WITH THE ECMWF CONSIDERING NOT ONLY
THE LOCATION OF THE SURFACE LOW...BUT ALSO THE H85-7 LOW WITH
REGARDS TO THE CONVEYOR BELT PROCESSES /WARM...COLD...DRY/. BOTH THE
ECMWF/GFS LINE UP WELL WITH THE MID-LVL LOW WHEREAS THE NAM IS
DISPLACED SLIGHTLY TO THE WEST.
SPLIT FLOW DISTURBANCES TRANSLATE INTO THE NORTHEASTERN CONUS DURING
THE DAY FRIDAY...PHASING ACROSS THE S/E SHORELINES OF NEW ENGLAND
AND OFFSHORE. THE NORTHERN STREAM IS USURPED INTO THE SOUTHERN
STREAM DISTURBANCE INTO AN EXPLOSIVE DEEPENING SURFACE LOW OVER THE
40N/70W BENCHMARK. THE DEEPENING SYSTEM DRAWS DEEP MOIST FLOW FROM
THE SOUTH PER STRONG /HURRICANE FORCE/ LOW-LVL FLOW. THE EXPECTATION
IS FOR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS TO IMPACT MUCH OF EASTERN AND ALL OF
SOUTHEASTERN NEW ENGLAND FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY PRIOR TO THE
STORM TAPERING OFF INTO SATURDAY NIGHT.
MESOSCALE DETAILS STILL REMAIN DIFFICULT TO PIN DOWN...BUT FEEL THE
DETAILS BELOW CONVEY OUR BEST THINKING.
PRIOR TO THE PHASING AND BOMBING OF THE SURFACE LOW /DURING THE DAY
FRIDAY/...ANTICIPATE WIDESPREAD AND LIGHT PRECIPITATION TO FALL
ACROSS ALL OF SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND MAINLY IN THE FORM OF LIGHT SNOW
INCREASING IN INTENSITY INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS. A MIX OF RAIN AND
SNOW IS ANTICIPATED ACROSS THE S/SE COASTAL REGIONS OF NEW
ENGLAND...WITH RAIN ACROSS THE MAJORITY OF THE CAPE AND NANTUCKET.
AS THE LOW BOMBS TOWARDS THE 40N/70W BENCHMARK...ANTICIPATING THE
LOW-MID LVL THERMAL FIELDS TO COLLAPSE...TIGHTENING WITH RESPECT TO
THE SURFACE LOW. N/NE FLOW SHOULD DRAW DOWN COLD AIR ACROSS ALL OF
SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND AND OFFSHORE.
ANTICIPATING ANY AND ALL WET MIX TO CHANGE TO SNOW TOWARDS THE
FRIDAY EVENING COMMUTE...THE INTENSITY OF WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO
INCREASE DURING THIS TIME-FRAME. RAIN WILL CONTINUE TO LINGER ACROSS
THE EASTERN CAPE AND NANTUCKET...GRADUALLY TRANSITIONING TO SNOW
TOWARDS MIDNIGHT SATURDAY. COLDER AIR WILL CONTINUE TO DRAW SOUTH
RESULTING IN SNOW ACROSS THE INTERIOR TOWARDS THE COAST BECOMING
MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW WILL CONTINUE INTO MIDDAY SATURDAY...
BECOMING LIGHTER INTO LATE MORNING HOURS SATURDAY...GRADUALLY
TAPERING WEST TO EAST AS THE SURFACE LOW EXITS OUT INTO THE
ATLANTIC INTO SATURDAY NIGHT.
SW-NE SNOW-BANDING IS ANTICIPATED ALONG AND PIVOTING WITH THE NW
QUADRANT OF THE MID-LVL LOW COINCIDENT WITH FAVORABLE ISENTROPIC
TROWALING OF THETAE...MID-LVL FRONTOGENESIS...AND DEEP-LAYER
IT IS WITHIN THESE REGIONS THAT 3 INCH/HR SNOWFALL RATES WILL BE
QUITE POSSIBLE. BANDS MAY BE ONLY 5 TO 10 MILES IN WIDTH...AND WITH
THE DYNAMICLY DEEP NATURE OF THE STORM IT IS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION
WE MAY SEE THUNDER-SNOW. BUT THE KEY IS THE LOCATION OF THE H85-7
LOW AS THE PLACEMENT OF WHICH AND THE ATTENDANT DYNAMICS WILL
DETERMINE WHO SEES THE HEAVIEST OF SNOWS. THERE REMAINS AN
UNCERTAINTY AS DETERMINISTIC SOLNS VARY TO SLIGHT DEGREES IN
PLACEMENT OF THE H85-7 LOW.
ASIDE...WITH MORE FAVORABILITY TOWARDS THE ECMWF...A LOW-MID LVL
BAND SETUP IS ANTICIPATED ACROSS SE NEW ENGLAND COINCIDENT WITH
THE BETTER DEFORMATION ZONE OF THE LOW /PARALLEL AND LIKELY ALONG
THE I-95 CORRIDOR BETWEEN BOSTON AND PROVIDENCE/. NO SURPRISE...AS
CLIMATOLOGICALLY WITH A SURFACE LOW CROSSING OVER THE 40N/70W
BENCHMARK THE HEAVIEST SNOWS ARE ORIENTED ALONG AND ACROSS THE
I-95 CORRIDOR. WILL SET MY SIGHTS OF HEAVIEST SNOWFALL AMOUNTS IN
A MORE MID-LVL BANDING SETUP APPEARS LIKELY FROM THE SOUTHERN HUDSON
RIVER VALLEY ACROSS W MA TOWARDS THE SHORELINE OF MAINE.
A MAJORITY OF THE BANDING WILL OCCUR BEGINNING AROUND THE FRIDAY
EVENING COMMUTE INTO SATURDAY MORNING.
WILL KEEP THE HEAVIEST SNOWS ACROSS E/SE NEW ENGLAND WITH THE
EXPECTATION OF WHITE OUT CONDITIONS UNDER HIGH WIND CRITERIA.
ANTICIPATING A LULL IN SNOW AMOUNTS ACROSS THE CONNECTICUT VALLEY
BETWEEN THE TWO AFOREMENTIONED BANDING SIGNATURES. LESSER AMOUNTS
OVER THE EASTERN CAPE AND TOWARDS THE ISLANDS DUE TO THE INITIAL
MIXING WITH RAIN.
HAVE GONE WITH BLIZZARD WARNINGS FOR CT/RI AND E/SE MA EXCLUDING
NANTUCKET. ALL OTHER LOCATIONS UNDER A WINTER STORM WARNING. WILL
SET THE TIMING FROM FRIDAY MORNING INTO SATURDAY...WITH THE
EXPECTATION OF THE WORST OF THE CONDITIONS FRIDAY NIGHT INTO
STRONGEST WINDS CENTER AROUND FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY OUT OF THE
NORTH-NORTHEAST. RULES OF THUMB...HALVING THE H85 FLOW NETS AN
ESTIMATE OF EXPECTED SURFACE WINDS OF AROUND 45 TO 50 MPH...WHILE AN
EVALUATION OF THE SURFACE PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL NETS AN ESTIMATE OF
AROUND 60 MPH.
CONSIDERING LOCAL CASE STUDIES AND CLIMATOLOGY BASED ON PRESSURE
DIFFERENTIALS AND H925/85 WINDS...WE WILL HIT HIGH WIND WARNING
CRITERIA FOR A MAJORITY OF EASTERN AND ALL OF SOUTHEASTERN NEW
CONSIDERING THE PROXIMITY OF THE SURFACE LOW...PRECIPITATION DRAG
PROCESSES...AND A MOIST-ADIABATIC VERTICAL PROFILE UP TO H925 WHERE
N/NE WINDS MAX UP TO AROUND 90 MPH...AM EXPECTING GUSTS AROUND 30
MPH FOR FAR NW MA...INCREASING SOUTH AND EAST WITH GUSTS ACROSS SE
MA INCLUDING THE CAPE/ISLANDS AND ADJACENT WATERS OF AROUND 80 MPH.
CLIMATOLOGICALLY...BASED ON THE LOW PASSING OVER THE 40N/70W BENCH-
MARK...THE STRONGEST WINDS ARE EXPECTED AROUND THE I-95 CORRIDOR
SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE CAPE/ISLANDS AND ADJACENT WATERS.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER...DRAW DOWN OF COLDER AIR WILL MAKE THE SNOW
FLUFFIER IN NATURE. ANTICIPATING BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW RESULTING
IN DRIFTS OF AROUND 5 FEET.
IN AREAS WHERE THE BLIZZARD WARNING IS IN EFFECT...THE GENERAL
PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT HIGH WIND CRITERIA ARE INCLUSIVE NOT
REQUIRING THE ISSUANCE OF A HIGH WIND WARNING. THE GREATEST
POTENTIAL OF HIGH WINDS WILL BE ACROSS E/SE MA INTO RI...THE
STRONGEST ALONG THE IMMEDIATE SHORES.
HURRICANE FORCE WIND WARNINGS FOR THE OUTER WATERS...WITH STORM
WARNINGS FOR THE INNER WATERS.
PLEASE SEE THE MARINE SECTION NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE DISCUSSION.
PLESE SEE THE COASTAL FLOODING SECTION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
You all have a nice day at work tomorrow I think our high is to be around 80.
Is this where I tell you we picked a tomato off of a plant that planted itself and grew to 3 feet tall since Oct.???
The Governor has told all non-essential state employees to stay home, and wants everyone off the roads by noon. With the high winds and the heavy snowfall (1-2 inches an hour they're saying), it's going to be white-out conditions.
We'll see how long UPS keeps us out there...
.....till it's too late to safely get you back
I'm here in Indiana. I don't care if we get 6 feet of snow. Just keep the ice away. During peak we had a really icey day, and I was so goddamned exhausted after riding around for 12 hours with my butthole puckered tight enough to drop diamonds. I can handle snow. Just takes a whole lot of flooring, lol. I can control those slides. Ice is the deadly mistress.
I'm in RI. 24-34 inches. We were told regular workday on Friday. All routes are in. Apparently safety is of the utmost concern.......to me. I followed the contract and booked off at least one hour before my shift. Actually 10 hours before.
Screw that. We had blizzard conditions here in the midwest on Dec 23rd.
I know my roads better than they do sitting in an office. When the conditions got to the point that I felt it would be unsafe to continue, I sent a message that I was heading in.
They like to use the "professional driver" tag against us when they are trying to charge us with avoiding accidents, well then as a "professional driver" I decided to bring it in.
Good luck East Coast brothers and sisters, don't try to to heroes, there is always another day to get them delivered.
Going to be a lot of EC's tomorrow.
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