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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 97794" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Research Irving Kristol, the proclaimed father of the American Neo-Conservative movement. Spend some time reading at the American Enterprise Institute's website <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090506220239/http://www.aei.org/default.asp?filter=all" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20090506220239/http://www.aei.org/default.asp?filter=all</a></p><p>Also a 3 year old piece written by Irving Kristol on the subject of Neo-Conservatism.</p><p></p><p>Also not a bad piece on the subject from Wikipedia either. I don't whole and completely endorse it because I've never fully researched but on the high points it covers a lot of good basic ground that tells the story in a few minutes worth of reading. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-conservative" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-conservative</a> For more on Irving Kristol click on his linked name in the Wikipedia article linked above.</p><p></p><p>There are some shared principles of traditional conservatives and neo-cons between them but overall there is a much vaster difference with the core issues of federal power and foreign and expansionist policies. Traditional conservatives and the classic liberal actually have a lot more in common as the so-called libertarian in it's truest sense is in reality a classic liberal and I have no problem describing myself as such. In fact I'm proud too.</p><p></p><p>Although I greatly disagree with Pat Buchannon on moral issues just as I disagree with you on many of the same, I do agree with Pat over the issue on foriegn policy and our ever increasing expansionist actions which it so happens you and I somewhat disagree on as well. Fortunately for all concerned in both our cases, we don't set policy that effects everyone else's life!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Lol :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Bullschitt Away Dude!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/thumbup1.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbup1:" title="Thumbup1 :thumbup1:" data-shortname=":thumbup1:" /></p><p></p><p>Someone here in another thread said that labels are unjust terms (liberal, conservative, etc.) and that really is so true. A conservative in the South will tend to be far more individualist than say a conservative in the north or even in the west. Liberals will be the same. You have to look at regional differences with people because the culture in which they came up will influence their thinking. I'm of Highland Scot ancestry and I never understood my natural rebel streak until a few years ago I learned from which I came. Those from England however came from society that was more ordered and you stood your place in society no matter what and those in power were granted the right to decide and that was proper. Roman occupation influence I guess. We think because of the passing generations that we change and in some respects we do but there is a very good genetic arguement on how we believe and express ourselves even today as a result of who or moreso where we came from. </p><p></p><p>This is also another reason that I believe some universal central gov't will never work with any longterm success but rather we need regional or even in some cases local centered powers to take into account for the culture of the people themselves. We can share a larger collective avenue of helping to protect and defend one another and to maintain the unalienable rights spoken of in the great document that was signed on this day 230 years ago. I also believe many of the founding fathers understood these differences and that also a strong central power would lead to abuse and corruption and in the end allow the few to become powerful again (remember the term British Aristocracy and No Titles of Nobility?) and dominate the many and to the many's disadvantage and misfortune. Good idea to read that great document again today and just ponder for a moment what they would think and do if they were alive today. I'll bet Osama would be the least of Washington's worries and you could take that to the bank!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 97794, member: 2189"] Research Irving Kristol, the proclaimed father of the American Neo-Conservative movement. Spend some time reading at the American Enterprise Institute's website [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20090506220239/http://www.aei.org/default.asp?filter=all[/url] Also a 3 year old piece written by Irving Kristol on the subject of Neo-Conservatism. Also not a bad piece on the subject from Wikipedia either. I don't whole and completely endorse it because I've never fully researched but on the high points it covers a lot of good basic ground that tells the story in a few minutes worth of reading. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-conservative[/url] For more on Irving Kristol click on his linked name in the Wikipedia article linked above. There are some shared principles of traditional conservatives and neo-cons between them but overall there is a much vaster difference with the core issues of federal power and foreign and expansionist policies. Traditional conservatives and the classic liberal actually have a lot more in common as the so-called libertarian in it's truest sense is in reality a classic liberal and I have no problem describing myself as such. In fact I'm proud too. Although I greatly disagree with Pat Buchannon on moral issues just as I disagree with you on many of the same, I do agree with Pat over the issue on foriegn policy and our ever increasing expansionist actions which it so happens you and I somewhat disagree on as well. Fortunately for all concerned in both our cases, we don't set policy that effects everyone else's life!:lol: Bullschitt Away Dude!:thumbup1: Someone here in another thread said that labels are unjust terms (liberal, conservative, etc.) and that really is so true. A conservative in the South will tend to be far more individualist than say a conservative in the north or even in the west. Liberals will be the same. You have to look at regional differences with people because the culture in which they came up will influence their thinking. I'm of Highland Scot ancestry and I never understood my natural rebel streak until a few years ago I learned from which I came. Those from England however came from society that was more ordered and you stood your place in society no matter what and those in power were granted the right to decide and that was proper. Roman occupation influence I guess. We think because of the passing generations that we change and in some respects we do but there is a very good genetic arguement on how we believe and express ourselves even today as a result of who or moreso where we came from. This is also another reason that I believe some universal central gov't will never work with any longterm success but rather we need regional or even in some cases local centered powers to take into account for the culture of the people themselves. We can share a larger collective avenue of helping to protect and defend one another and to maintain the unalienable rights spoken of in the great document that was signed on this day 230 years ago. I also believe many of the founding fathers understood these differences and that also a strong central power would lead to abuse and corruption and in the end allow the few to become powerful again (remember the term British Aristocracy and No Titles of Nobility?) and dominate the many and to the many's disadvantage and misfortune. Good idea to read that great document again today and just ponder for a moment what they would think and do if they were alive today. I'll bet Osama would be the least of Washington's worries and you could take that to the bank! [/QUOTE]
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