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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 97951" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>You could crusie the pages of the budget and find lots of items that could be excluded that has no other function than to benefit the fortunes of those that recieve them but that's not gonna happen. That said, the 5 minute solution to the tip of the iceberg is at the link below but more importantly is using this website to look at your own Congressperson and Senators and if each of us do this and start holding their feet to the fire then it might be possible to reel some of these folks in.</p><p> </p><p>Limited gov't can be a wonderful thing as was once proven in this country but when the people sit back and only demand more wine and circus, guys like me are given more and more traction to cry for "Get Rid of It All!" As time goes by more and more have their personal ox goared so they join in the frey. The best way to shut it down (the traction) is to reel in what gives it traction. Ever thought that very little if anything might be said about the federal surveillance program for terrorism if the gov't wasn't already so massive and is only showing trends of getting bigger and more powerful? Ever thought that there would have been no Osama at all to surveil had there been limited gov't? Both President's Eisenhower and Kennedy warn on the size and scope of gov't as they saw it in their day and even Eisenhower himself looking at the early days of the coldwar warned about the evils of the Military/Industrial complex. Why? How saw Nazi Germany's Military/Industrial Complex up close and personal? Could it be he understood trends and parrallels?</p><p> </p><p>If an employee at work shows trends of not doing his/her job over time and over that same timeframe the trend has grown with less and less productivity, would you then give that employee a job assignment that would further encourage less productivity or would you strip away the job just down to the bare essentials and then monitor that employee like a hawk and hold them accountable? Would you agree that basically what I said above would be the smart thing to do? People are people no matter what they do in life so way would I be scorned for wanting to do the same with other people who are showing the exact same kind of trends.</p><p> </p><p>Here's the link to Citizens Against Gov't Waste and their "2006' PigBook" which IMO is a good organization and bi-partisan at least with what I've seen.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2006" target="_blank">http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2006</a></p><p> </p><p>Hey I'll be the first one to agree there are many problems out there and the solutions seem so complex and time consuming. Here's something we all need to consider about our gov't going forward. Consider the amount of time and effort you have to labor over the course of a year to pay for all the taxes that you pay. I'm talking Fed. State and local and soon maybe international as the UN is now talking about a global income taxation plan. Now look around at you co-workers, family, friends and neighbors and think of how much they have to do the same. Now look at what you get in return. What is essential will jump off the page at you immediately and in most cases we would agree. But most of those essentials you will find that up until recent times was for the most part done by local and in some cases State govt's that were closest to the people to be overseen and who's scale of size was smaller and easier to manage. Besides, what's harder to manipulate and rob from, 50 banks or in some cases 1000's or just 1? That question write there gets to the heart of the matter and one of the bedrock reasons our founding fathers granted very limited powers to a centralized gov't in the first place.</p><p> </p><p>Sedition and treason are hard words and we scorn people today we believe engage in such actions. However, yesterday we celebrated the very actions of seditious and treasonous persons even to the highest level with the leader of our nation. One man's treason and sedition is another's man's patriot and national hero. All depends on which side of the fence you stand. </p><p> </p><p>Hope you had a great 4th as we went to a "Little Big Town" concert (2 singers are local girls) in our town square and a great fireworks show with it. Back to the real life today!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" data-shortname=":wink:" /> </p><p> </p><p>c ya!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 97951, member: 2189"] You could crusie the pages of the budget and find lots of items that could be excluded that has no other function than to benefit the fortunes of those that recieve them but that's not gonna happen. That said, the 5 minute solution to the tip of the iceberg is at the link below but more importantly is using this website to look at your own Congressperson and Senators and if each of us do this and start holding their feet to the fire then it might be possible to reel some of these folks in. Limited gov't can be a wonderful thing as was once proven in this country but when the people sit back and only demand more wine and circus, guys like me are given more and more traction to cry for "Get Rid of It All!" As time goes by more and more have their personal ox goared so they join in the frey. The best way to shut it down (the traction) is to reel in what gives it traction. Ever thought that very little if anything might be said about the federal surveillance program for terrorism if the gov't wasn't already so massive and is only showing trends of getting bigger and more powerful? Ever thought that there would have been no Osama at all to surveil had there been limited gov't? Both President's Eisenhower and Kennedy warn on the size and scope of gov't as they saw it in their day and even Eisenhower himself looking at the early days of the coldwar warned about the evils of the Military/Industrial complex. Why? How saw Nazi Germany's Military/Industrial Complex up close and personal? Could it be he understood trends and parrallels? If an employee at work shows trends of not doing his/her job over time and over that same timeframe the trend has grown with less and less productivity, would you then give that employee a job assignment that would further encourage less productivity or would you strip away the job just down to the bare essentials and then monitor that employee like a hawk and hold them accountable? Would you agree that basically what I said above would be the smart thing to do? People are people no matter what they do in life so way would I be scorned for wanting to do the same with other people who are showing the exact same kind of trends. Here's the link to Citizens Against Gov't Waste and their "2006' PigBook" which IMO is a good organization and bi-partisan at least with what I've seen. [URL="http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2006"]http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2006[/URL] Hey I'll be the first one to agree there are many problems out there and the solutions seem so complex and time consuming. Here's something we all need to consider about our gov't going forward. Consider the amount of time and effort you have to labor over the course of a year to pay for all the taxes that you pay. I'm talking Fed. State and local and soon maybe international as the UN is now talking about a global income taxation plan. Now look around at you co-workers, family, friends and neighbors and think of how much they have to do the same. Now look at what you get in return. What is essential will jump off the page at you immediately and in most cases we would agree. But most of those essentials you will find that up until recent times was for the most part done by local and in some cases State govt's that were closest to the people to be overseen and who's scale of size was smaller and easier to manage. Besides, what's harder to manipulate and rob from, 50 banks or in some cases 1000's or just 1? That question write there gets to the heart of the matter and one of the bedrock reasons our founding fathers granted very limited powers to a centralized gov't in the first place. Sedition and treason are hard words and we scorn people today we believe engage in such actions. However, yesterday we celebrated the very actions of seditious and treasonous persons even to the highest level with the leader of our nation. One man's treason and sedition is another's man's patriot and national hero. All depends on which side of the fence you stand. Hope you had a great 4th as we went to a "Little Big Town" concert (2 singers are local girls) in our town square and a great fireworks show with it. Back to the real life today! :wink: c ya! [/QUOTE]
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