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<blockquote data-quote="DELACROIX" data-source="post: 5030213" data-attributes="member: 49065"><p>We are obviously going to disagree...Just look at the vote, if you subtract the clueless part timers who were willing to vote on anything to get that 3 dollar an hour raise, the vast majority of the <strong>"NO"</strong> votes were cast by high seniority full timers in all the regions. These <strong>22.4's </strong>were a <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"><strong>"Concession"</strong></span> <span style="color: #000000">no matter what you say, producing a continuing four year progression of minor league RPCD's, that would still be making 5 dollar less per hour than their counterparts once they hit top rate. These 22.4's are not bid the same way as RPCD's, they sign up on a extra work list inside the building that for the most part are ignored by seniority part timers...They were designed to be filled by outside new hires, any protection language for our current RPCD's does not apply to these 22.4's..<strong>(9.5) protection.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">What if the Company decides next contract to negotiate a two tier pay scale in your Feeder Departments, bypassing seniority and any bidding rights on start times...A permanent <strong>"On Call List"</strong>, would you have a problem with that? Your point of view that these 22.4 positions will be paying into your Pension and Health and Welfare funds and that is all that matters goes against the concept of <strong>Equal</strong> <strong>Union Work for Equal Union Pay..</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong>That 2/3..50% Participation clause</strong> that you believed Hoffa had to apply because he had not choice is false....After the tallies were counted and the Company discovered that it was voted down, they issued an official statement that they were : <strong>Willing to go back to the table and continue further negotiations"...<strong> Hoffa and the negotiation committee declined to go further and forced the contract....<span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">"WHY"?</span></span></strong></strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Why are you so scared of "Ron Carey"...? (Fear mongering)...what is so scary that a "strike"...</span></strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong><strong></strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><strong><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Where you around in l997?...Even Hoffa supported that strike because of the Company's failed attempt of taking over our pensions (nationwide). There will be no national strike, lockout or labor stoppage in 2023...the </span></strong></strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>economic conditions are too perilous, and that Central States Issue is finally resolved, What major issue would cause either party to force a strike now...?</strong></span></span></p><p></p><p>It will a first national negotiated Contract for both parties in leadership..Carol will probably want to start early to get it over with, and O'Brien or Vairma will be willing to do the same...This Pandemic has changed the timetable and the rules...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DELACROIX, post: 5030213, member: 49065"] We are obviously going to disagree...Just look at the vote, if you subtract the clueless part timers who were willing to vote on anything to get that 3 dollar an hour raise, the vast majority of the [B]"NO"[/B] votes were cast by high seniority full timers in all the regions. These [B]22.4's [/B]were a [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)][B]"Concession"[/B][/COLOR][B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)] [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000]no matter what you say, producing a continuing four year progression of minor league RPCD's, that would still be making 5 dollar less per hour than their counterparts once they hit top rate. These 22.4's are not bid the same way as RPCD's, they sign up on a extra work list inside the building that for the most part are ignored by seniority part timers...They were designed to be filled by outside new hires, any protection language for our current RPCD's does not apply to these 22.4's..[B](9.5) protection.[/B] What if the Company decides next contract to negotiate a two tier pay scale in your Feeder Departments, bypassing seniority and any bidding rights on start times...A permanent [B]"On Call List"[/B], would you have a problem with that? Your point of view that these 22.4 positions will be paying into your Pension and Health and Welfare funds and that is all that matters goes against the concept of [B]Equal[/B] [B]Union Work for Equal Union Pay.. That 2/3..50% Participation clause[/B] that you believed Hoffa had to apply because he had not choice is false....After the tallies were counted and the Company discovered that it was voted down, they issued an official statement that they were : [B]Willing to go back to the table and continue further negotiations"...[B] Hoffa and the negotiation committee declined to go further and forced the contract....[SIZE=4][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]"WHY"?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B][B][SIZE=4]Why are you so scared of "Ron Carey"...? (Fear mongering)...what is so scary that a "strike"...[/SIZE] [SIZE=4]Where you around in l997?...Even Hoffa supported that strike because of the Company's failed attempt of taking over our pensions (nationwide). There will be no national strike, lockout or labor stoppage in 2023...the [/SIZE][/B][/B][SIZE=4][B]economic conditions are too perilous, and that Central States Issue is finally resolved, What major issue would cause either party to force a strike now...?[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] It will a first national negotiated Contract for both parties in leadership..Carol will probably want to start early to get it over with, and O'Brien or Vairma will be willing to do the same...This Pandemic has changed the timetable and the rules... [/QUOTE]
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