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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 1020458" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>I assumed nothing. I deduced that you made a crass personal insult toward me. I made this deduction based on the context, and you have freely admitted I was correct. Yet you want to somehow make me the bad guy for making an assumption? That seems odd. </p><p></p><p> I did not really expect an apology.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, putting the wrong package in a car causes misloads. Period. Being distracted by outside noise is not the cause of misloads, it is an excuse. I fully believe management should not be screaming at loaders under any circumstances, it is still not a valid excuse for misloading. </p><p></p><p>I do not know the particulars in the mirror cases you site. If you are correct in all aspects of it, I would agree that is unfair. I would bet however, that you are wrong about "nothing happened to the sup". Usually the flaying that sups get for such transgressions is done in private. I do not understand why you say the driver was suspended and then you say he got is job back? If he was suspended he never lost his job to begin with.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>and I have no problem with you believing sober. I was really more looking for clarification from him. I agreed with him that not having the safety items in the cars is a stupid thing UPS does. I merely doubted that they were received by the manufacturer with those safety items and then UPS paid extra money to remove them, as sober seems to be saying. That I have a hard time believing. Guess I will agree to disagree with both of you. Which I am capable of doing without calling either of you names.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good for you, bad for him. Not really sure what your point is. For my part, I have never seen management "set a driver up" for success or failure. I have seen management, including myself, try to make the best choices possible given often unreasonable constraints of resources and time. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am making the assumption here that when your dispatcher is on vacation your center manager covers for him, and things are much better on the dispatch end in those cases? If that is the case, the only deduction I can offer based on the limited information you are giving is that your center manager has a much greater Area knowledge of all the routes in your center than does your dispatcher. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, there is really no need for you to comment on the micromanaging, as sober pointed it out as stupidity and I started my reply to that point of his with the word "agreed". As far as I can tell we are all on the same page on that one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>whereas your mantra is just a storm of variability I suppose?</p><p></p><p>and if you re-read BrownMonsters post, you may find that my lack of a changing mantra was really not his central point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 1020458, member: 14596"] I assumed nothing. I deduced that you made a crass personal insult toward me. I made this deduction based on the context, and you have freely admitted I was correct. Yet you want to somehow make me the bad guy for making an assumption? That seems odd. I did not really expect an apology. No, putting the wrong package in a car causes misloads. Period. Being distracted by outside noise is not the cause of misloads, it is an excuse. I fully believe management should not be screaming at loaders under any circumstances, it is still not a valid excuse for misloading. I do not know the particulars in the mirror cases you site. If you are correct in all aspects of it, I would agree that is unfair. I would bet however, that you are wrong about "nothing happened to the sup". Usually the flaying that sups get for such transgressions is done in private. I do not understand why you say the driver was suspended and then you say he got is job back? If he was suspended he never lost his job to begin with. and I have no problem with you believing sober. I was really more looking for clarification from him. I agreed with him that not having the safety items in the cars is a stupid thing UPS does. I merely doubted that they were received by the manufacturer with those safety items and then UPS paid extra money to remove them, as sober seems to be saying. That I have a hard time believing. Guess I will agree to disagree with both of you. Which I am capable of doing without calling either of you names. Good for you, bad for him. Not really sure what your point is. For my part, I have never seen management "set a driver up" for success or failure. I have seen management, including myself, try to make the best choices possible given often unreasonable constraints of resources and time. I am making the assumption here that when your dispatcher is on vacation your center manager covers for him, and things are much better on the dispatch end in those cases? If that is the case, the only deduction I can offer based on the limited information you are giving is that your center manager has a much greater Area knowledge of all the routes in your center than does your dispatcher. No, there is really no need for you to comment on the micromanaging, as sober pointed it out as stupidity and I started my reply to that point of his with the word "agreed". As far as I can tell we are all on the same page on that one. whereas your mantra is just a storm of variability I suppose? and if you re-read BrownMonsters post, you may find that my lack of a changing mantra was really not his central point. [/QUOTE]
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