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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 1023286" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>You really are all over the place on this.</p><p></p><p>Here you make it sound like it was a deceptive or dishonest thing on UPS' part to not allow the Union employees into the management plan. Yet that is a plan that is completely controlled by UPS. Just a few posts ago you were arguing how bad it would be to be in a solely UPS controlled plan. </p><p></p><p>And speaking of omissions, you keep omitting the FACT that also part of the framework for those negotiations would be guaranteed minimum benefit levels. Is there any more important single attribute of a pension plan?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have asked partners. I have been told no comprehensive plan existed from the IBT side, that they mostly made UPS negotiate against itself by saying no, not good enough to each UPS proposal, and making proposals on one or two issues but certainly not a comprehensive contract proposal. </p><p></p><p>In short, the partners' stance I have spoken with is the unions comprehensive proposal pre-strike, did not exist. I was looking for someone from the IBT's point of view to show some evidence to the contrary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 1023286, member: 14596"] You really are all over the place on this. Here you make it sound like it was a deceptive or dishonest thing on UPS' part to not allow the Union employees into the management plan. Yet that is a plan that is completely controlled by UPS. Just a few posts ago you were arguing how bad it would be to be in a solely UPS controlled plan. And speaking of omissions, you keep omitting the FACT that also part of the framework for those negotiations would be guaranteed minimum benefit levels. Is there any more important single attribute of a pension plan? I have asked partners. I have been told no comprehensive plan existed from the IBT side, that they mostly made UPS negotiate against itself by saying no, not good enough to each UPS proposal, and making proposals on one or two issues but certainly not a comprehensive contract proposal. In short, the partners' stance I have spoken with is the unions comprehensive proposal pre-strike, did not exist. I was looking for someone from the IBT's point of view to show some evidence to the contrary. [/QUOTE]
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