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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 3072414" data-attributes="member: 66082"><a href="http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2012/01/13/145039131/the-transformation-of-american-factory-jobs-in-one-company" target="_blank">www.npr.org/sections/money/2012/01/13/145039131/the-transformation-of-american-factory-jobs-in-one-company</a>This false dichotomy between going to college vs a trade education is mostly nonsense.&nbsp; All jobs require training and employers in the past used to train workers long term to do those jobs.NPR a few years back did a series of stories on US manufacturing.&nbsp;&nbsp; And one of those segments focused on a factory in South Carolina I think, and basically they profiled 2 workers one low skilled, and one highly skilled who ran CNC machines.&nbsp; The basic message from the owner was he didn&#039;t want to risk wasting money training people to do the job because they might not be any good or they could take their skills elsewhere.Yet the job was requiring more knowledge of metals and how to program those CNC machines, basically because employers push the cost of training unto workers in America, the idea of apprenticeships don&#039;t work in the America labor market.&nbsp; So a lot of people think if Im going to have to spend money getting extra training, a college education makes sense.So again if Mike Rowe isn&#039;t addressing that issue, he is peeing into the wind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 3072414, member: 66082"] [URL='http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2012/01/13/145039131/the-transformation-of-american-factory-jobs-in-one-company']www.npr.org/sections/money/2012/01/13/145039131/the-transformation-of-american-factory-jobs-in-one-company[/URL] This false dichotomy between going to college vs a trade education is mostly nonsense. All jobs require training and employers in the past used to train workers long term to do those jobs. NPR a few years back did a series of stories on US manufacturing. And one of those segments focused on a factory in South Carolina I think, and basically they profiled 2 workers one low skilled, and one highly skilled who ran CNC machines. The basic message from the owner was he didn't want to risk wasting money training people to do the job because they might not be any good or they could take their skills elsewhere. Yet the job was requiring more knowledge of metals and how to program those CNC machines, basically because employers push the cost of training unto workers in America, the idea of apprenticeships don't work in the America labor market. So a lot of people think if Im going to have to spend money getting extra training, a college education makes sense. So again if Mike Rowe isn't addressing that issue, he is peeing into the wind. [/QUOTE]

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