Misload/Warning letter question

[TheCaptain]

I work in the outbound at my center and the other night our work area misloaded a bag. Our PT Sup does not choose to redistribute the loads during wrap-up so we have two people covering the belt and its almost impossible to say who loads what at the end of the night. Management has decided that since they can't be sure who is responsible for said bag that both people who were in the area are going to receive warning letters.

My question is in regards to the grievances my coworker and I will be filing. What should be the focus? Would be better to say the it falls on the supervisor for not assigning people to certain trucks, losing accountability? Absence of evidence? Is there any precedent to a case like this?

Any insight is great appreciated, thank you.

 

[Big Bad Wolf]

Innocent until proven guilty. They cannot blanket discipline just because they are not sure who it was. Also, base your case on averages. You are not paid to achieve perfection. You may strive for perfection, but rarely will achieve it at UPS. If you load 300 pieces and misload 3, that is still 99%. You would graduate with honors at any college. So,
Article 37(a), intimidation, harassment, innocent until proven guilty (beyond a reasonable doubt), unfair labor practice and just being a general douchér.


Where are you pigs now?

 

[upschuck]

Along with the article that states if two+ people use scanner, then neither can be held responsible for what is in that scanner.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Along with the article that states if two+ people use scanner, then neither can be held responsible for what is in that scanner.

Fire both of them!

 

[upschuck]

Fire both of them!

You've been promoted? You'd have to change your name to "I've got a letter for you"

 

[bleedinbrown58]

I work in the outbound at my center and the other night our work area misloaded a bag. Our PT Sup does not choose to redistribute the loads during wrap-up so we have two people covering the belt and its almost impossible to say who loads what at the end of the night. Management has decided that since they can't be sure who is responsible for said bag that both people who were in the area are going to receive warning letters.

My question is in regards to the grievances my coworker and I will be filing. What should be the focus? Would be better to say the it falls on the supervisor for not assigning people to certain trucks, losing accountability? Absence of evidence? Is there any precedent to a case like this?

Any insight is great appreciated, thank you.

Did anyone else in a different area on your shift that night get misloads...and if so...were they written up? If 5 people have misloads...they can't pick and choose who to write up...especially if another employee had more misloads than you did that night.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

You've been promoted? You'd have to change your name to "I've got a letter for you"

You're next Frog!...lol

 

[bleedinbrown58]

You've been promoted? You'd have to change your name to "I've got a letter for you"

Shouldn't you be at work, sir? Those RH catalogs aren't going to deliver themselves! lol

 

[Wally]

Fire both of them!

I agree 100%! Fire both sup and manager!

 

[upschuck]

You're next Frog!...lol

Ribbit

 

[upschuck]

Shouldn't you be at work, sir? Those RH catalogs aren't going to deliver themselves! lol

Aren't breaks wonderful.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Aren't breaks wonderful.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Ribbit

Better hop to It .

 

[TheCaptain]

Innocent until proven guilty. They cannot blanket discipline just because they are not sure who it was. Also, base your case on averages. You are not paid to achieve perfection. You may strive for perfection, but rarely will achieve it at UPS. If you load 300 pieces and misload 3, that is still 99%. You would graduate with honors at any college. So,
Article 37(a), intimidation, harassment, innocent until proven guilty (beyond a reasonable doubt), unfair labor practice and just being a general douchér.


Where are you pigs now?

Innocent until proven guilty. They cannot blanket discipline just because they are not sure who it was. Also, base your case on averages. You are not paid to achieve perfection. You may strive for perfection, but rarely will achieve it at UPS. If you load 300 pieces and misload 3, that is still 99%. You would graduate with honors at any college. So,
Article 37(a), intimidation, harassment, innocent until proven guilty (beyond a reasonable doubt), unfair labor practice and just being a general douchér.


Where are you pigs now?

Just what i was looking for, thanks.