Monday off, UPS forgot.

[OPTION3]

"another favor"...."your relationship with management"..."have my spouse call in"...are you friend'ing serious? That is disgusting!
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that's all I need to read

 

[Lineandinitial]

Maybe some people go through life without expecting favors from these people...you don't cozy up to a snake...sorry if you percieve that as tough guy attitude.....you may wake up one day and realize you are only any good to this company as long as you have a strong back and weak mind
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You make my point. It must suck being so miserable. Out of curiosity, do you consider yourself "good to this company" or just a hang around that's a pain in the neck to deal with?

Did UPS make you so bitter or did your bitterness begin as a result of things jus\t never seeming to go your way? I'm really interested in your perspective on this.

 

[OPTION3]

You make my point. It must suck being so miserable. Out of curiosity, do you consider yourself "good to this company" or just a hang around that's a pain in the neck to deal with?

Did UPS make you so bitter or did your bitterness begin as a result of things jus\t never seeming to go your way? I'm really interested in your perspective on this.

I must have something to offer..Been there 28 years full-time...nothing bitter about it, I just go to work every day ,on time, and do my job--no SPECIAL favors required, no special RELATIONSHIP with my boss, none of that. It does sicken me to watch grown men and women come in and act like total fools.....The beauty of so many years at this company is, I get to see people who act like this still get treated the exact same as a "BITTER" person as you call them. Sooner or later, fence sitters find out the reality of UPS, thats what makes it funny. As some can attest who work with me, I am far from bitter. I am a well respected steward(for 26years), father, and husband. I understand coming in and doing "favors"(definitely don't agree with it) I just don't think ANYONE should HAVE to do that. When you , or anyone else does it, it gives managers cause to believe ALL should do the same---sickening. Sorry if that upsets your DELICATE ego. It's funny how you attack fellow workers for being "TOUGH GUYS" yet you give "hard zzz" center manager's a pass...it really makes one wonder...HMMMM. No Bitterness---it's a job.

 

[Lineandinitial]

I must have something to offer..Been there 28 years full-time...nothing bitter about it, I just go to work every day ,on time, and do my job--no SPECIAL favors required, no special RELATIONSHIP with my boss, none of that. It does sicken me to watch grown men and women come in and act like total fools.....The beauty of so many years at this company is, I get to see people who act like this still get treated the exact same as a "BITTER" person as you call them. Sooner or later, fence sitters find out the reality of UPS, thats what makes it funny. As some can attest who work with me, I am far from bitter. I am a well respected steward(for 26years), father, and husband. I understand coming in and doing "favors"(definitely don't agree with it) I just don't think ANYONE should HAVE to do that. When you , or anyone else does it, it gives managers cause to believe ALL should do the same---sickening. Sorry if that upsets your DELICATE ego. It's funny how you attack fellow workers for being "TOUGH GUYS" yet you give "hard zzz" center manager's a pass...it really makes one wonder...HMMMM. No Bitterness---it's a job.

Feeling attacked now, eh? It must suck being such a bitter person...

 

[cynic]

You make my point. It must suck being so miserable. Out of curiosity, do you consider yourself "good to this company" or just a hang around that's a pain in the neck to deal with?

Did UPS make you so bitter or did your bitterness begin as a result of things jus\t never seeming to go your way? I'm really interested in your perspective on this.

I understand where OPTION3 is coming from. I don't consider myself to a pain in the neck - I consider myself to be a royal pain in the ass to deal with because I expect FT/PT Sup's to comply with the contract in place as much as they want myself and other hourlies to adhere to their policies. I am not miserable or bitter, I despise hypocrisy in all aspects of life and have zero tolerance for it in the workplace and will work as directed but will voice my opinion without yelling or using profanity to the FT/PT Sup's.

I do not perceive things going my way or going management's way - that would mean my self-worth would come from my job and make it far too personal. I view things at work at UPS as following the contract or not, period. Follow it, no problem; don't follow it, grievance(s). Management thinks I've done something wrong, fine, please get a steward the second I perceive the conversation may lead to discipline, etc. Don't get me one and keep talking, grievance for failure to provide representation - those conversations are short and sweet and they never get a steward. Do I consider that a "win" for me? Nope, it's just working by the contract.

 

[cachsux]

that's all I need to read

Depending on the quality of your relationship with your management team one could call back in a reasonable amount of time. If you're scheduled off then stick to your guns and don't go in, but call. The reason I say this is if you burn the bridge then when you call to get a day off or another favor they might wait until the end of the day on you also. One trick is to have a spouse call back. They can get the info and tell of your inability to come in without the pressure from mgmt.

Be be careful with the "I've been drinking" excuse. Use it and a hardass center manager will have someone waiting to talk to you about your perceived alcoholism as he pulls you from service until YOU can prove your ok. I've seen it happen. Once in pkg and twice in feeder.

Yesterday at I got a phone call at 130am asking me to come in early. Ok, $100 is enough motivation. But when I got to work I informed the new specialist that called to do so at a reasonable hour as he was lucky I caught it on first ring rather than it wake my wife who would have ripped him a new one up to his ears.

Thats all you need to read? Let's try reading a little harder.

1) I said "DEPENDING on the quality of your relationship with your mgmt team one COULD call back in a reasonable amount of time"

That means if you have a decent group then return that decency by calling back in a reasonable amount of time. OR if you work for a bunch of pricks then obviously you will reciprocate appropriately. See how it's left open for either side?

2)I said "[FONT=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]If you're scheduled off then stick to your guns and don't go in, but call. The reason I say this is if you burn the bridge then when you call to get a day off or another favor they might wait until the end of the day on you also."

[/FONT]That means play whatever game you want calling back but don't be surprised when mgmt plays the same game when you call looking for whatever favor you want. Not "another favor" as you quoted. Not favors. Not favoratism.

3)I said "one trick is to have your spouse call back".

You out got me there. I meant to say have your spouse answer the call. This was in response to the guys posting that they didn't want to speak to whomever mgmt was on the line. Guys don't want to answer the call? There's a way to get the msg yet remain untouchable. But, I did not say "have my spouse call in" as you stated.

As far as the " I've been drinking" remarks, as I said I've see it three times bite someone when the wrong member of management wants to play. Did they get fired? No. But they were marched off to the clinic for tests, got to sit and talk to HR, and all other kinds of fun things till mgmt made sure they weren't sending someone under the influence out on the road. Can't be too safe when someone is making claims every time you talk to them on the phone now can you?

Did that explain it a little better or do you still want to try and impress us by how far you can pee?

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Thats all you need to read? Let's try reading a little harder.

1) I said "DEPENDING on the quality of your relationship with your mgmt team one COULD call back in a reasonable amount of time"

That means if you have a decent group then return that decency by calling back in a reasonable amount of time. OR if you work for a bunch of pricks then obviously you will reciprocate appropriately. See how it's left open for either side?

2)I said "[FONT=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]If you're scheduled off then stick to your guns and don't go in, but call. The reason I say this is if you burn the bridge then when you call to get a day off or another favor they might wait until the end of the day on you also."

[/FONT]That means play whatever game you want calling back but don't be surprised when mgmt plays the same game when you call looking for whatever favor you want. Not "another favor" as you quoted. Not favors. Not favoratism.

3)I said "one trick is to have your spouse call back".

You out got me there. I meant to say have your spouse answer the call. This was in response to the guys posting that they didn't want to speak to whomever mgmt was on the line. Guys don't want to answer the call? There's a way to get the msg yet remain untouchable. But, I did not say "have my spouse call in" as you stated.

As far as the " I've been drinking" remarks, as I said I've see it three times bite someone when the wrong member of management wants to play. Did they get fired? No. But they were marched off to the clinic for tests, got to sit and talk to HR, and all other kinds of fun things till mgmt made sure they weren't sending someone under the influence out on the road. Can't be too safe when someone is making claims every time you talk to them on the phone now can you?

Did that explain it a little better or do you still want to try and impress us by how far you can pee?

Or, you could both whip them out and measure them, and end this now. Cynic will bring the ruler.

 

[OPTION3]

Feeling attacked now, eh? It must suck being such a bitter person...

Actually I feel nothing towards you...that would assume i gave a rip

 

[Babagounj]

Update
Ya they did not cover my job today .
Someone from my old building still had my cell phone number , they called to find out if I was still alive .
Yet they didn't bother to call my home number .
So I called in .
Nobody knew I had taken an optional day .

 

[ymelord]

I love a good heated discussion about management. I'm not afraid to say I'm bitter, have a chip on my shoulder, and I hate UPS. Worked here almost 30 years, 25 normal UPS bull, I can deal with that, but the last 5 the harassment, warning letters, suspensions, firing, for doing the same job I have always done, except with 50 more stops, is bull. Teamsters has changed, and not for the better also. I bleed union blood, but UPS and Teamster are becoming or have become one. Call me what you want I don't care, this bitter old bastard is voting NO. You don't have to lie about drinking just don't call.

 

[Brownkeg8]

My oh **** story.. Had a day when we had extra drivers, so decided to take advantage of it. Immediately went into shut down mode mentally as I was walking to my car, ran into a good friend from the preload and made the mistake of standing in the parking lot shooting the ****. All of a sudden our out of breathe center manager is standing next to me stating they forgot another drive had an option day and now I was being forced to run a route blind. Had a lot of scenarios running through my head at that moment, however fell victim to the fact no stewards were around and didn't want to risk any refusals.