More 22.3's? Yeah SUUURE

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by KnowTice, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. KnowTice

    KnowTice New Member

    The press release talks about creating more full time jobs.

    I am a 22.3 in the Ontario Hub and we are in fact still owed 22.3 jobs that were promised from LAST contract. They haven't even filled those jobs or offered them. Now they want to dangle the idea of more full time jobs to make us think this contract is good? Hell No.
  2. InsideUPS

    InsideUPS Active Member

    Same in our center KnowTice.....we lost four 22.3 jobs...... This is a joke in IMHO..... How can anyone trust what comes out of these negotiations considering the loss of 22.3 jobs since the 97 contract?
  3. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I was hoping to get swayed to a yes vote as details came out.

    Not really looking good for that outcome.
  4. pharacyde

    pharacyde Member

    You know they traded enforcement of the 22.3 jobs from the last contract in exchange for light resistance when organizing freight right?
  5. balland chain

    balland chain Member

    With what I have read, they are getting a no vote from me...I saw that they are contributing more to the pension, but I have yet to see if WE get an increase in our pension...and if after 30 years we get more than 3K a month.. F Central States. !!!
  6. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    The press release did not mention 22.3 jobs.
    With the dispatch of drivers at this time, you could add 2000 F/T jobs as drivers very easily.

    Man up and be a driver!
  7. DOK

    DOK Active Member

    2000 fulltime jobs for the whole country over a 5 year period is nothing to brag about. What does that work out to per center?
  8. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Somewhere around 2.
  9. KnowTice

    KnowTice New Member

    Questioning my manhood? Really?

    My point is we are still owed a lot of full time jobs from the last contract. It's been how many years now? How dare they brag about how they are going to add more full time jobs when they still owe jobs from the last contract. It's straight up disrespectful.

    Man up? You should focus more of that on the company to step up and give us what they promised years ago before trying to blind people with all this new stuff the new contract is supposed to bring us. It's total garbage. I'm telling you right now that at least in the Ontario Hub, this contract is getting a big No vote from the workers.
  10. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Misery love company
  11. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    OK ... don't man up!
  12. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Why do we instantly expect the 2000 new jobs to be 22.3s? I say make them drivers. 20 district, 2000 jobs, 100 new routes per (give or take depending on size). Don't we have enough full time scanners at just 8 hours. I'm not knocking it at all. But to reduce the OT hours, we should make some drivers.
  13. Coldworld

    Coldworld Taking it all back.....

    the jobs will probably be from guys retiring now and in the next few years....they will just replace them, like they would have to do anyway and say its a new job...
  14. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    They are 22.3 jobs. That's for sure
  15. Coldworld

    Coldworld Taking it all back.....

    you were a driver you have any pics of your bad self with the rolled up short sleeves or you wearing the daisy duke shorts with the knee high socks...
  16. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    That stinks for sure!
  17. Coldworld

    Coldworld Taking it all back.....

    there is no way they will add this many routes...these jobs will be made once people retire..period.
  18. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Hoak quit using sarcasm. Do the right thing man. It's time.
  19. KnowTice

    KnowTice New Member

    Manning up would be to do what's right and shoot this garbage contract down. If you want to bend over, grab your ankles and listen to the lies, go ahead, I don't consider that manning up but to each his own.

    Does it not bother you that the company STILL hasn't come through to give jobs that were promised? We know the routine, they are going to offer the jobs at the very end to coincide with the voting to make themselves look better so they can pass this garbage contract.
  20. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Ignorance is understandable with only 3 posts.
    You'll catch on ... eventually ... maybe.