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<blockquote data-quote="air_dr" data-source="post: 914583" data-attributes="member: 29929"><p>Thank you for your posts. I totally understand the point you are trying to make and basically agree with you. However, I also see the point of those who have said that a particular wage is far more easily agreed upon and enforced whereas "'good' or 'bad' work conditions" is more subjective and harder to police... It almost comes down to the culture of the company... and i don't know how you undertake to changing that... though goodness, I agree, it certainly needs some changing. Given what I think is the mindset of UPS, I believe there is reason to fear that giving up a wage increase in the next contract for "better working conditions" would mean less pay and ultimately the same lousy working conditions you have now...Sorry my post is not more encouraging...</p><p></p><p>As my user name suggests, I am an air driver (evenings), and intend to remain one for the reasons you bring up... even though there is far more money to be made in friend/T package car. I see staying where I am as a quality of life issue, and feel that ultimately, I am better off getting by with less money. I am sorry that is not at least an option for you... Now you have said that air drivers have been eliminated in your hub... Please tell me more... I understand A/D's were eliminated in NY about a year ago. I am in the upper Midwest, and am very interested in what has happened in your neck of the woods and when. I have heard absolutely no discussion lately at work about any planned elimination of air routes, though as a PM A/D, I tend to be among the last to find anything out for reasons which are a real blessing for me... As a PM A/D, so long as I do my job, I feel I manage to largely stay under the radar screen. When I come in, the day is winding down, center manager's and sups are on the way out if not gone, and I tend not to get hassled about production, numbers and the like. I am very grateful for the arrangement I have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="air_dr, post: 914583, member: 29929"] Thank you for your posts. I totally understand the point you are trying to make and basically agree with you. However, I also see the point of those who have said that a particular wage is far more easily agreed upon and enforced whereas "'good' or 'bad' work conditions" is more subjective and harder to police... It almost comes down to the culture of the company... and i don't know how you undertake to changing that... though goodness, I agree, it certainly needs some changing. Given what I think is the mindset of UPS, I believe there is reason to fear that giving up a wage increase in the next contract for "better working conditions" would mean less pay and ultimately the same lousy working conditions you have now...Sorry my post is not more encouraging... As my user name suggests, I am an air driver (evenings), and intend to remain one for the reasons you bring up... even though there is far more money to be made in friend/T package car. I see staying where I am as a quality of life issue, and feel that ultimately, I am better off getting by with less money. I am sorry that is not at least an option for you... Now you have said that air drivers have been eliminated in your hub... Please tell me more... I understand A/D's were eliminated in NY about a year ago. I am in the upper Midwest, and am very interested in what has happened in your neck of the woods and when. I have heard absolutely no discussion lately at work about any planned elimination of air routes, though as a PM A/D, I tend to be among the last to find anything out for reasons which are a real blessing for me... As a PM A/D, so long as I do my job, I feel I manage to largely stay under the radar screen. When I come in, the day is winding down, center manager's and sups are on the way out if not gone, and I tend not to get hassled about production, numbers and the like. I am very grateful for the arrangement I have. [/QUOTE]
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