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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 4704816" data-attributes="member: 66082">This goes beyond trump, to the central animating thing in American politics, american representative government was shaped by excluding large percentages of the population from having a say in anything. A governing ideology formed around this, that certain people in America shouldn’t have the ability to shape or influence anything in America.most republican voters fundamentally believe that certain groups of Americans shouldn&#039;t have the same ability to direct the political future of this nation. That’s what all of this trump worship is about, trump more than any national politician in my lifetime directly denigrated groups of Americans as not really American. He said they came from criminal stock and were rapists, they were foreign Muslims and should be banned from coming here, they had the China flu and should be banned from coming here, he told elected congresswomen they needed to go back to where they came from before lecturing Americans about their shortcomings, he asked why do so many immigrants come from crap hole nations like Haiti and other African nations. And trump is now saying those same kinds of illegitimate Americans in Detroit and Philadelphia and Atlanta stole the election from him and his voters.trump is very explicit with his meanings and that’s both why he lost, but it’s also why he is loved by some.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 4704816, member: 66082"] This goes beyond trump, to the central animating thing in American politics, american representative government was shaped by excluding large percentages of the population from having a say in anything. A governing ideology formed around this, that certain people in America shouldn’t have the ability to shape or influence anything in America. most republican voters fundamentally believe that certain groups of Americans shouldn't have the same ability to direct the political future of this nation. That’s what all of this trump worship is about, trump more than any national politician in my lifetime directly denigrated groups of Americans as not really American. He said they came from criminal stock and were rapists, they were foreign Muslims and should be banned from coming here, they had the China flu and should be banned from coming here, he told elected congresswomen they needed to go back to where they came from before lecturing Americans about their shortcomings, he asked why do so many immigrants come from crap hole nations like Haiti and other African nations. And trump is now saying those same kinds of illegitimate Americans in Detroit and Philadelphia and Atlanta stole the election from him and his voters. trump is very explicit with his meanings and that’s both why he lost, but it’s also why he is loved by some. [/QUOTE]

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