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<blockquote data-quote="Bubblehead" data-source="post: 2008469" data-attributes="member: 14176"><p>We keep hearing this claim that "UPS wanted out of the Healthcare business", which may or may not be entirely the case.</p><p></p><p>We have also heard credible people say that UPS wanted every single UPSer nationwide in their plan if they were to continue the company plan.</p><p>This makes complete sense, as they would increase their buying power with the additional participants.</p><p>The union had no choice but to balk at this notion, because of the numerous localized multi-employer HC plans, like Local 348 in my state, that would go belly up without UPS's contributions, .</p><p></p><p>While I agree that UPS couldn't be forced to keep the company plan, if they were willing to follow through with a lockout.</p><p>I also contend that the Union did not have to bring any other proposal to the membership that they were opposed to, but the union and company were on the same page from the beginning.</p><p></p><p>This whole debacle was a charade, riddled with a series of half truths and deceptions, where some were made unwitting martyrs and still don't realize it.</p><p>This is my biggest misgiving with the whole HC switch, as I would have likely not resisted it like I did and may have even voted for it, had I been presented with the truth.</p><p></p><p>As far as Fred Z and Local 89, your assertion that they were holding out to keep the company HC plan at Worldport simply is not the case.</p><p>I know because I went there for a day and a half, on my own dime, and helped pass out Vote No literature after the Ohio Rider narrowly passed on the 3rd attempt.</p><p>Not one word of the multi page pamphlet we handed out addressed health care.</p><p>Their quest was for improved working conditions and those who say otherwise are either lying or were lied to.</p><p>I saw it first hand.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bubblehead, post: 2008469, member: 14176"] We keep hearing this claim that "UPS wanted out of the Healthcare business", which may or may not be entirely the case. We have also heard credible people say that UPS wanted every single UPSer nationwide in their plan if they were to continue the company plan. This makes complete sense, as they would increase their buying power with the additional participants. The union had no choice but to balk at this notion, because of the numerous localized multi-employer HC plans, like Local 348 in my state, that would go belly up without UPS's contributions, . While I agree that UPS couldn't be forced to keep the company plan, if they were willing to follow through with a lockout. I also contend that the Union did not have to bring any other proposal to the membership that they were opposed to, but the union and company were on the same page from the beginning. This whole debacle was a charade, riddled with a series of half truths and deceptions, where some were made unwitting martyrs and still don't realize it. This is my biggest misgiving with the whole HC switch, as I would have likely not resisted it like I did and may have even voted for it, had I been presented with the truth. As far as Fred Z and Local 89, your assertion that they were holding out to keep the company HC plan at Worldport simply is not the case. I know because I went there for a day and a half, on my own dime, and helped pass out Vote No literature after the Ohio Rider narrowly passed on the 3rd attempt. Not one word of the multi page pamphlet we handed out addressed health care. Their quest was for improved working conditions and those who say otherwise are either lying or were lied to. I saw it first hand. [/QUOTE]
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