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<blockquote data-quote="RDL" data-source="post: 4138327" data-attributes="member: 77548"><p>I don’t think coolslice’s grievance was so much with the existence of unions altogether as it was with how they serve us today. Anyone who is remotely educated on the history of unions understands that there was a time in history where they were a force of nature in improving workplace conditions. I sympathize with him on many points because I, too, feel the union’s potency has since stalled out.</p><p></p><p>You are right, though. If the Teamsters had never permeated UPS, it’s entirely inevitable that they’d pay as little or less than FedEx. I’ve been telling that for eons to people I have to explain union workshops to. It’s just that nowadays, we feel our locals extending on up to our national panel, does the bare minimum to represent us. And technically, our healthcare and pension do not come to us free of charge. That wouldn’t be a sustainable model of bizness. You can’t draw blood from a stone. Obviously we net UPS and IBT enough revenue to upkeep these bennies. But I digress, there are in fact other trade companies that pay similarly to UPS and offer similar benefits without the presence of a union in the mix. Those companies I actually find to be more ethical than even our own because they aren’t compelled by the longstanding precepts of a union to a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work like ours is.</p><p></p><p>Now, don’t get snippy and tell me I ought to go work for one of them then. It’s not that easy. Those companies are often difficult to enter into for starters. I’ve slaved for many years to make it to where I am with UPS, so it makes more sense for me to want to see improvement in the beast that has held my gaze for so long rather than cut my losses at the first sign of trouble. So, I understand coolslice’s frustration. But it’s gonna take far more than just 2 employees giving 2 shts about their working conditions. This requires systemic change and probably revolution on some scale.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDL, post: 4138327, member: 77548"] I don’t think coolslice’s grievance was so much with the existence of unions altogether as it was with how they serve us today. Anyone who is remotely educated on the history of unions understands that there was a time in history where they were a force of nature in improving workplace conditions. I sympathize with him on many points because I, too, feel the union’s potency has since stalled out. You are right, though. If the Teamsters had never permeated UPS, it’s entirely inevitable that they’d pay as little or less than FedEx. I’ve been telling that for eons to people I have to explain union workshops to. It’s just that nowadays, we feel our locals extending on up to our national panel, does the bare minimum to represent us. And technically, our healthcare and pension do not come to us free of charge. That wouldn’t be a sustainable model of bizness. You can’t draw blood from a stone. Obviously we net UPS and IBT enough revenue to upkeep these bennies. But I digress, there are in fact other trade companies that pay similarly to UPS and offer similar benefits without the presence of a union in the mix. Those companies I actually find to be more ethical than even our own because they aren’t compelled by the longstanding precepts of a union to a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work like ours is. Now, don’t get snippy and tell me I ought to go work for one of them then. It’s not that easy. Those companies are often difficult to enter into for starters. I’ve slaved for many years to make it to where I am with UPS, so it makes more sense for me to want to see improvement in the beast that has held my gaze for so long rather than cut my losses at the first sign of trouble. So, I understand coolslice’s frustration. But it’s gonna take far more than just 2 employees giving 2 shts about their working conditions. This requires systemic change and probably revolution on some scale. [/QUOTE]
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