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Negotiations Update (April 19, 2013)
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<blockquote data-quote="InsideUPS" data-source="post: 1124686" data-attributes="member: 31414"><p>Just a few comments here....</p><p></p><p>1) Harassment will always exist in one form or another....no amount of contract language regardless of how well it is written will ever be enforced. There is no such thing as.......... "good harassment language".</p><p></p><p>2) SurePost - Currently 1/3 of of our volume (smalls 10 lbs or less) is subject to SurePost weight and size limits.....meaning that we could stand to lose even more volume to SurePost... We currently have language against subcontracting our work.......regardless....SurePost was still put in place with absolutely no issues from our Union. ...........almost as good as our 22.3 language.....</p><p></p><p>3) If you really want UPS to remain profitable forever.....do you think it may be time to implement a two-tiered driver wage? The money saved by implementing the two-tier driver scale could be used to fund a non-concessionary health and welfare benefit package for all EXISTING UPS employees. Similar to how the part-timers wages were tiered years ago. This would go along with your comment...<em>"shouldn't we compromise a little?"</em>... (note: just provoking a little controversial thought here...)</p><p></p><p>4) As far as your comment.... "I want my company to remain very profitable forever so that my livelyhood remains good".... I believe that UPS was VERY profitable in 2012....to the tune of 4.5 Billion Dollars.....AFTER Creative Accounting........ I 100% agree that it is in all our best interest to help keep UPS profitable........HOWEVER...... at what point do we quit investing in our own lives to benefit the sole interests of "Wall Street"? IMHO.......I believe that the UPS Pie needs to be divided differently.....not necessarily in greater proportions.....In other words.....we can still remain "healthy"..... WITHOUT getting fat....as you mentioned in your post. CONCESSIONS on the other hand will only serve to feed the FAT CATS of Wall Street and Atlanta....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsideUPS, post: 1124686, member: 31414"] Just a few comments here.... 1) Harassment will always exist in one form or another....no amount of contract language regardless of how well it is written will ever be enforced. There is no such thing as.......... "good harassment language". 2) SurePost - Currently 1/3 of of our volume (smalls 10 lbs or less) is subject to SurePost weight and size limits.....meaning that we could stand to lose even more volume to SurePost... We currently have language against subcontracting our work.......regardless....SurePost was still put in place with absolutely no issues from our Union. ...........almost as good as our 22.3 language..... 3) If you really want UPS to remain profitable forever.....do you think it may be time to implement a two-tiered driver wage? The money saved by implementing the two-tier driver scale could be used to fund a non-concessionary health and welfare benefit package for all EXISTING UPS employees. Similar to how the part-timers wages were tiered years ago. This would go along with your comment...[I]"shouldn't we compromise a little?"[/I]... (note: just provoking a little controversial thought here...) 4) As far as your comment.... "I want my company to remain very profitable forever so that my livelyhood remains good".... I believe that UPS was VERY profitable in 2012....to the tune of 4.5 Billion Dollars.....AFTER Creative Accounting........ I 100% agree that it is in all our best interest to help keep UPS profitable........HOWEVER...... at what point do we quit investing in our own lives to benefit the sole interests of "Wall Street"? IMHO.......I believe that the UPS Pie needs to be divided differently.....not necessarily in greater proportions.....In other words.....we can still remain "healthy"..... WITHOUT getting fat....as you mentioned in your post. CONCESSIONS on the other hand will only serve to feed the FAT CATS of Wall Street and Atlanta.... [/QUOTE]
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