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<blockquote data-quote="stringerman85" data-source="post: 326227" data-attributes="member: 14938"><p>I know you've made a point quite a few times that you believe there is NO recession taking place, But to argue your statement, Just because your center or other centers have hired a number of employees over the last couple years does not mean the economy has went sky high.....Our large facility has hired a number of drivers as well but there are many reasons for that happening, Of course I don't know the circumstances or your hub center...But where I work, Yes there's been quite of few drivers in the last 5 years hired on.....Number 1, Because we are in a period where MANY drivers from the 70's and 80's are hitting retirement...Number 2, There are many areas around (St. Louis) that are still expanding, (Lots of empty fields and wildlife areas, Farm lands, have sold their land for millions of dollars to create more commercial/residential expansions.....Of course in that case, It created more "driving jobs" ...But regardless of all that, UPS may not have the hugest affect of the recession "volume wise" yet, But gas prices for UPS are probably through the roof, And I'm sure p/u stops and volume are down in many areas due to the economy... There is NO way that you can believe UPS has made as much of a profit this year as any other year in the past....NO company I can think of has brought any significant profits....You tell me what company or corporation in American right now that has brought in "more than normal" profits.....Besides maybe oil companies, And they only are because people NEED gasoline no matter what the price is.....But I truly believe we are in a recession or are getting very close to one....It's easy for you to sit there and say we are NOT in recession because YOU have a job...You are not part of the 280,000 people who are currently unemployed this year since January 1st....1st quarter numbers have already proven that we are in a downward slope, And already as expected the second quarter numbers are looking worse.......</p><p></p><p>Thats all..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stringerman85, post: 326227, member: 14938"] I know you've made a point quite a few times that you believe there is NO recession taking place, But to argue your statement, Just because your center or other centers have hired a number of employees over the last couple years does not mean the economy has went sky high.....Our large facility has hired a number of drivers as well but there are many reasons for that happening, Of course I don't know the circumstances or your hub center...But where I work, Yes there's been quite of few drivers in the last 5 years hired on.....Number 1, Because we are in a period where MANY drivers from the 70's and 80's are hitting retirement...Number 2, There are many areas around (St. Louis) that are still expanding, (Lots of empty fields and wildlife areas, Farm lands, have sold their land for millions of dollars to create more commercial/residential expansions.....Of course in that case, It created more "driving jobs" ...But regardless of all that, UPS may not have the hugest affect of the recession "volume wise" yet, But gas prices for UPS are probably through the roof, And I'm sure p/u stops and volume are down in many areas due to the economy... There is NO way that you can believe UPS has made as much of a profit this year as any other year in the past....NO company I can think of has brought any significant profits....You tell me what company or corporation in American right now that has brought in "more than normal" profits.....Besides maybe oil companies, And they only are because people NEED gasoline no matter what the price is.....But I truly believe we are in a recession or are getting very close to one....It's easy for you to sit there and say we are NOT in recession because YOU have a job...You are not part of the 280,000 people who are currently unemployed this year since January 1st....1st quarter numbers have already proven that we are in a downward slope, And already as expected the second quarter numbers are looking worse....... Thats all.. [/QUOTE]
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