New tdu article on halt to ratification

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Delivery!!!, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. Delivery!!!

    Delivery!!! Member

    Just saw an article on tdu, states that 7 of the 10 vps have requested an emergency executive board meeting. Sorry, I don't know how to properly post the link.
     
  2. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

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  3. Yolo

    Yolo Active Member

    Do they have the power to stop ratification? I doubt it.
     
  4. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    Actually, I think they do. Article XII, Section 6 was used to pack supplemental agreements into the asses of 3 supplemental/local regions in 2014, so there's also no reason it can't be used to changed the Article XII language to allow for a simple majority to reject the contract. That power is in the General Executive Board's hands. Hopefully it happens.
     
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  5. rebel87

    rebel87 Member

    Damn, i hope so.
     
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  6. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Even if they don't, their visible movement to stop it is a sign to members that there is still Union leadership in high places that has not completely bailed on them.
     
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  7. Kanovic

    Kanovic My job is fun

    Glad someone is at least listening to the members.
     
  8. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    This contract is already a done deal per the IBT Constitution. Changing the Constitution now will not affect this contract, but it would affect future contracts.
     
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  9. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    Wrong! Wasn’t a final offer, freight contract proved that. It was a choice and the membership is well aware and will hold them accountable.
     
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  10. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    The IBT Constitution says you are wrong.

    What did the freight contract prove besides being voted down? Yes, they have to renegotiate per the IBT constitution. They surpassed the 50% voter turnout, again, per the IBT Constitution.

    We did not.
     
  11. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    That is open to interpretation.
     
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  12. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Nope.

    Even TDU is not fighting the angle of not a final offer. They are fighting Article XII Section 2 saying Hoffa does not have to impose the contract per the Constitution, that he can continue to negotiate a better deal, since UPS was willing to right after the vote count.
     
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  13. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    The freight contract proves it was not a final offer, as there isn’t a strike for them. You are entirely wrong on this, why do you think DT intitially said going back to table, why in 2013 was that theory not used on riders on first offer? You’re wrong!
     
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  14. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    Yup.

    Article 12 section 2d
    Any question arising from the application or interpretation of this Section shall be decided by the General President, whose decision shall be final.
     
  15. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    I’m not saying that they can’t do it, but they certainly didn’t have to. That’s a fact.
     
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  16. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Where does it say anywhere that a rejected final offer automatically triggers a strike?

    Because he wasn't sure if they were going to invoke the IBT Constitution. An hour later, they did.

    That is the million dollar question. And I am still waiting for an answer from the Union on that.

    Sorry, but the IBT Constitution says it was a final offer, in black and white.
     
  17. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    The constitution doesn’t say he’s wrong. He’s dead balls on. That vaginal blood fart Taylor is doing what he wants because he’s a tool. He better retire.
     
  18. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    Every Taylor ball licker on here and every UPSRISING update for months.
     
  19. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    That part I agree, but the other side could have filed charges against Hoffa for not enforcing the Constitution.

    I said before, he was in a no win situation.
     
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  20. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    When does declining a last, best, and final offer not mean a strike?