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New Video! Dishonesty = Discharge
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<blockquote data-quote="DELACROIX" data-source="post: 4886914" data-attributes="member: 49065"><p>A real simple solution for unjust termination hearings: <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🦘" title="Kangaroo :kangaroo:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f998.png" data-shortname=":kangaroo:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🦘" title="Kangaroo :kangaroo:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f998.png" data-shortname=":kangaroo:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🦘" title="Kangaroo :kangaroo:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f998.png" data-shortname=":kangaroo:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🐑" title="Ewe :sheep:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f411.png" data-shortname=":sheep:" /> <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🐍" title="Snake :snake:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f40d.png" data-shortname=":snake:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🐍" title="Snake :snake:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f40d.png" data-shortname=":snake:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🐍" title="Snake :snake:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f40d.png" data-shortname=":snake:" /></p><p></p><p>“Duct Tape”.. apply anytime you go into a unknown hearing.. cover mouth of the involved employee and let the business agent or steward answer any fishing questions relating to the perceived offense. Make them work for it, do not open your mouth or lose your temper and give them more reasons for termination not even relating to the first offense. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤬" title="Face with symbols on mouth :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f92c.png" data-shortname=":face_with_symbols_over_mouth:" /></p><p></p><p>If needed have a pen and pad ready for communication only between the union official and the employee in question which would become evidence in possession of the Union only...<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="📝" title="Memo :pencil:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f4dd.png" data-shortname=":pencil:" /></p><p></p><p>Article i... other serious..and dishonesty are so vague and would be called a “catch 22” or catch all to quiet an employee at best , unfortunately a lot of good members have been terminated on stupid stuff. The real issue would be the back room dealings between the company and the union panel members that trades one termination against another. The one who gets sold down the river is the one who is perceived to have no means to fight beyond the hearings interpretation of the discharge. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🐑" title="Ewe :sheep:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f411.png" data-shortname=":sheep:" /></p><p></p><p>I am only talking about stupid disciplinary terminations... if you are subject to any criminal behavior like stealing merchandise or assault..you are a goner, cry as you may...<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😭" title="Loudly crying face :sob:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f62d.png" data-shortname=":sob:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DELACROIX, post: 4886914, member: 49065"] A real simple solution for unjust termination hearings: 🦘🦘🦘🐑 🐍🐍🐍 “Duct Tape”.. apply anytime you go into a unknown hearing.. cover mouth of the involved employee and let the business agent or steward answer any fishing questions relating to the perceived offense. Make them work for it, do not open your mouth or lose your temper and give them more reasons for termination not even relating to the first offense. 🤬 If needed have a pen and pad ready for communication only between the union official and the employee in question which would become evidence in possession of the Union only...📝 Article i... other serious..and dishonesty are so vague and would be called a “catch 22” or catch all to quiet an employee at best , unfortunately a lot of good members have been terminated on stupid stuff. The real issue would be the back room dealings between the company and the union panel members that trades one termination against another. The one who gets sold down the river is the one who is perceived to have no means to fight beyond the hearings interpretation of the discharge. 🐑 I am only talking about stupid disciplinary terminations... if you are subject to any criminal behavior like stealing merchandise or assault..you are a goner, cry as you may...😭 [/QUOTE]
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