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<blockquote data-quote="badpas" data-source="post: 198511" data-attributes="member: 8876"><p>Jon, you are so stuck on keeping everything the same your missing that things have to change. Do you agree that things can't stay the way they are now? I'm sure most do. This is just one option. Yes things may seem in diseray but what do you think will happen if the pension fund goes belly up? There will be a mutiny for sure. Its good to have questions and arguments and it is also good to get them out in the open and discuss them but lets not get paranoid just yet. The fact is if the teamsters don't do something right or at the very least try, its going to be just the way you explained except changing trustees and all the rest of the should of or would ofs won't do any good. You can't please everyone this is obvious but you can make things better for most. The rest will always have something bad to say. As far as all the problems mounting before anything is done unfortuantly may happen but the difference between us and the pilots are sheer numbers, and the fact that UPS would not risk another strike now especially being so close to the last one. If the apwa were to become, I'm sure the company would test us but not to the extent of the pilots. Because lets not forget there were only 400 pilots when that happened and ups was still fairly new. And even if it did take 4 years to ratify a new contract it was still for the better for in a year the pilots trippled in numbers. So you can say what you want about this comparison but I'v talked to the pres. Bob Miller and it has been much better ever since. Oh yeah, he also said their reason for voting out the teamsters was basically representation and not even close to the problems we're having. But don't take my word give him a call he'll tell you everything you'll want to know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="badpas, post: 198511, member: 8876"] Jon, you are so stuck on keeping everything the same your missing that things have to change. Do you agree that things can't stay the way they are now? I'm sure most do. This is just one option. Yes things may seem in diseray but what do you think will happen if the pension fund goes belly up? There will be a mutiny for sure. Its good to have questions and arguments and it is also good to get them out in the open and discuss them but lets not get paranoid just yet. The fact is if the teamsters don't do something right or at the very least try, its going to be just the way you explained except changing trustees and all the rest of the should of or would ofs won't do any good. You can't please everyone this is obvious but you can make things better for most. The rest will always have something bad to say. As far as all the problems mounting before anything is done unfortuantly may happen but the difference between us and the pilots are sheer numbers, and the fact that UPS would not risk another strike now especially being so close to the last one. If the apwa were to become, I'm sure the company would test us but not to the extent of the pilots. Because lets not forget there were only 400 pilots when that happened and ups was still fairly new. And even if it did take 4 years to ratify a new contract it was still for the better for in a year the pilots trippled in numbers. So you can say what you want about this comparison but I'v talked to the pres. Bob Miller and it has been much better ever since. Oh yeah, he also said their reason for voting out the teamsters was basically representation and not even close to the problems we're having. But don't take my word give him a call he'll tell you everything you'll want to know. [/QUOTE]
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