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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 4839497" data-attributes="member: 66082">I was union for 11 years with my current employer.&nbsp; I trained and qualified to be a fill in for a management position, but I would only fill in when someone was on vacation or sick.&nbsp; Anyway they offered me and other&#039;s like me who had trained and qualified in this fill in management position to take it full time, and no one would take it.&nbsp; They had to hire outside people and then train them to do the job.&nbsp; Supervisors would complain oh no one wants the job, no one wants the responsibility, oh no one wants to work hard, etc it was all bs, the job&nbsp; compared to our current job didn&#039;t pay enough.&nbsp; I was making a lot more with OT, and that management job was straight salary no OT&nbsp; As soon as they significantly upped the pay, lo and behold they had a surplus of people wanting that job.In other words, any job will be filled if you pay people.&nbsp; If you can&#039;t get people, its cause you aren&#039;t paying enough.&nbsp; Period.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 4839497, member: 66082"] I was union for 11 years with my current employer. I trained and qualified to be a fill in for a management position, but I would only fill in when someone was on vacation or sick. Anyway they offered me and other's like me who had trained and qualified in this fill in management position to take it full time, and no one would take it. They had to hire outside people and then train them to do the job. Supervisors would complain oh no one wants the job, no one wants the responsibility, oh no one wants to work hard, etc it was all bs, the job compared to our current job didn't pay enough. I was making a lot more with OT, and that management job was straight salary no OT As soon as they significantly upped the pay, lo and behold they had a surplus of people wanting that job. In other words, any job will be filled if you pay people. If you can't get people, its cause you aren't paying enough. Period. [/QUOTE]

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