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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1024511" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I think we should return to the ideal of the founding fathers in regards to voting for representative gov't. All non-citizens should be completely and totally exempt from all forms of taxation. I mean the ideal was no taxation without representation. And I have no problem denying all forms of gov't services too.</p><p></p><p>I've searched and searched for hard provable data that gives some measure as to how many or even a %age of illegals that do vote (or even try) from what I've seen, at best the number is very low. The problem however, most of the data across all sources is just to shakey to mean much for me one way or the other.</p><p></p><p>A big problem of illegals voting IMO it's just more of a political boogie man to frighten the boobsie with. Appears to be working too.</p><p></p><p>Today I was out on the road listening to the radio and heard a discussion on voting with some specific numbers on just how many people do vote among lawfully eligible voters. Adding those eligible non voters into the mix, Obama was only elected by 1 in 4 total eligible voters and in the case of Texas on which the discussion was centered, almost 70% of those eligible to vote do not do so. It gave the % of total voters that elected Rick Perry governor and I'm talking in the teens. Sorry I forget the number cause even I was so shocked at what I was hearing. To say I was delightfully surprised at those facts is an understatement but if they hold up to be true, WOW! I do know nationally in the last election which was considered a heavy turnout, only 60% of total eligible voters actually went to the polls and there is real concern that number will drop this election and maybe under 50%.</p><p></p><p>Looking at the many past election results and those who run or even win to hold office, seems to me it's the most ignorant of Americans who do actually go to the polls to vote and I base that on the results we get in the gov't we have!</p><p></p><p>If the electoral process allowed for a none of the above or actually counted a blank ballet as voting for nobody, based on those who don't vote, Nobody would always win. This means that Nobody would pass silly laws, Nobody would screw up our lives and Nobody would enact laws based on political payoffs.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20110830183542/http://www.anti-politics.ws/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">Therefore the choice in November is clear!</span></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1024511, member: 2189"] I think we should return to the ideal of the founding fathers in regards to voting for representative gov't. All non-citizens should be completely and totally exempt from all forms of taxation. I mean the ideal was no taxation without representation. And I have no problem denying all forms of gov't services too. I've searched and searched for hard provable data that gives some measure as to how many or even a %age of illegals that do vote (or even try) from what I've seen, at best the number is very low. The problem however, most of the data across all sources is just to shakey to mean much for me one way or the other. A big problem of illegals voting IMO it's just more of a political boogie man to frighten the boobsie with. Appears to be working too. Today I was out on the road listening to the radio and heard a discussion on voting with some specific numbers on just how many people do vote among lawfully eligible voters. Adding those eligible non voters into the mix, Obama was only elected by 1 in 4 total eligible voters and in the case of Texas on which the discussion was centered, almost 70% of those eligible to vote do not do so. It gave the % of total voters that elected Rick Perry governor and I'm talking in the teens. Sorry I forget the number cause even I was so shocked at what I was hearing. To say I was delightfully surprised at those facts is an understatement but if they hold up to be true, WOW! I do know nationally in the last election which was considered a heavy turnout, only 60% of total eligible voters actually went to the polls and there is real concern that number will drop this election and maybe under 50%. Looking at the many past election results and those who run or even win to hold office, seems to me it's the most ignorant of Americans who do actually go to the polls to vote and I base that on the results we get in the gov't we have! If the electoral process allowed for a none of the above or actually counted a blank ballet as voting for nobody, based on those who don't vote, Nobody would always win. This means that Nobody would pass silly laws, Nobody would screw up our lives and Nobody would enact laws based on political payoffs. [URL='https://web.archive.org/web/20110830183542/http://www.anti-politics.ws/'][COLOR=#ff0000]Therefore the choice in November is clear![/COLOR][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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