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<blockquote data-quote="diesel96" data-source="post: 341106" data-attributes="member: 9859"><p>Thats pretty much an unfair chracterzation of both Griff and Obama. If you listen, read, and research all three canidates most have their vision, plans, and expectations layed out step by step on their websites. Thats the beauty of the internet age, all this information is at your fingertips.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>George W. Bush may do as much damage to John McCain's chances of being elected as Jeremiah Wright does to Barack Obama's. If John McCain wants to be known as the canidate for working with the opposing party, he needs to distance himself as far away to the Bush Administration as possible. The McCain of yesteryear from 1983 to 2004 maybe look at as you described but certainly not today. His flip flopping and his pandering to the extreme right IMO has lost his ability to work with the opposing parties.</p><p> </p><p> McCain made a floor speech once that reads as if it might have been written yesterday—by Ron Paul:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><p style="text-align: left">"The fundamental question is: What is the United States’ interest in Lebanon? It is said we are there to keep the peace. I ask, what peace? It is said we are there to aid the government. I ask, what government? It is said we are there to stabilize the region. I ask, how can the U.S. presence stabilize the region?... The longer we stay in Lebanon, the harder it will be for us to leave. We will be trapped by the case we make for having our troops there in the first place. </p> <p style="text-align: left">What can we expect if we withdraw from Lebanon? The same as will happen if we stay. I acknowledge that the level of fighting will increase if we leave. I regretfully acknowledge that many innocent civilians will be hurt. But I firmly believe this will happen in any event.</p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left">Now insert “Iraq” where McCain said “Lebanon.” It’s as if McCain the Younger foresaw our present predicament and taunted his future incarnation, showing that wisdom doesn’t necessarily come with age. </p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diesel96, post: 341106, member: 9859"] Thats pretty much an unfair chracterzation of both Griff and Obama. If you listen, read, and research all three canidates most have their vision, plans, and expectations layed out step by step on their websites. Thats the beauty of the internet age, all this information is at your fingertips. George W. Bush may do as much damage to John McCain's chances of being elected as Jeremiah Wright does to Barack Obama's. If John McCain wants to be known as the canidate for working with the opposing party, he needs to distance himself as far away to the Bush Administration as possible. The McCain of yesteryear from 1983 to 2004 maybe look at as you described but certainly not today. His flip flopping and his pandering to the extreme right IMO has lost his ability to work with the opposing parties. McCain made a floor speech once that reads as if it might have been written yesterday—by Ron Paul: [INDENT][LEFT]"The fundamental question is: What is the United States’ interest in Lebanon? It is said we are there to keep the peace. I ask, what peace? It is said we are there to aid the government. I ask, what government? It is said we are there to stabilize the region. I ask, how can the U.S. presence stabilize the region?... The longer we stay in Lebanon, the harder it will be for us to leave. We will be trapped by the case we make for having our troops there in the first place. What can we expect if we withdraw from Lebanon? The same as will happen if we stay. I acknowledge that the level of fighting will increase if we leave. I regretfully acknowledge that many innocent civilians will be hurt. But I firmly believe this will happen in any event. Now insert “Iraq” where McCain said “Lebanon.” It’s as if McCain the Younger foresaw our present predicament and taunted his future incarnation, showing that wisdom doesn’t necessarily come with age. [/LEFT] [/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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