Obama's Date Night
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Can you describe it to us so that we can share in your outrage?
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
I'm not defending Obama, but there are a few things that have to be remembered here.
Its not Obamas fault that the President is a target for asassination. Part of the expense of maintaining a President is to protect him. It is a non-partisan issue. The man has the launch codes for the nuclear weapons, he cant just hop in his car or take a cab out on a date with his wife like you and I can.
It probably wouldnt save any money to drive him; whenever his motorcade travels anywhere the streets have to be blocked off and extraordinary measures must be taken to guard against snipers. Local police pay out tens of thousands in overtime to their officers. Its a lot easier and cheaper to secure an aircraft than an entire motorcade route.
Regardless of who my President is...I dont want him to live in a hermetically sealed bubble, never getting out to see the "real world" of the country that he governs. He needs to be the President of the United States, not the Mayor of Washington DC. He needs to travel and be among the people as much as possible. This means spending money to transport him and keep him safe. Its part of the cost of doing business.
Its not Obamas fault that the President is a target for asassination. Part of the expense of maintaining a President is to protect him. It is a non-partisan issue. The man has the launch codes for the nuclear weapons, he cant just hop in his car or take a cab out on a date with his wife like you and I can.
It probably wouldnt save any money to drive him; whenever his motorcade travels anywhere the streets have to be blocked off and extraordinary measures must be taken to guard against snipers. Local police pay out tens of thousands in overtime to their officers. Its a lot easier and cheaper to secure an aircraft than an entire motorcade route.
Regardless of who my President is...I dont want him to live in a hermetically sealed bubble, never getting out to see the "real world" of the country that he governs. He needs to be the President of the United States, not the Mayor of Washington DC. He needs to travel and be among the people as much as possible. This means spending money to transport him and keep him safe. Its part of the cost of doing business.
diesel96
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Has your subscription to "The Enquirer" run out ? Or did you cancel it for newsletters from the desk of David Duke....
tieguy
Banned
That may be the answer Diesel. We're all looking for an honest politician. Maybe we need to vote one in that at least admits he's a bigot?
wkmac
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Babagounj
Strength through joy
could you supply his contact info ?
tieguy
Banned
I think this is the letter more is referring to:
The Obama's Date Night In New York City
The hidden cost as reported by a retired Navy Captain.
From a former Air Force Colonel....
Subject: The Date
First, let me say that I've moved three presidents up to now and I've seen incredible waste.
But, the "new" guy really takes the cake. I don't have an issue with the President promising his wife dinner and a show or that he even takes his wife out.
But, when I saw the news say that the date cost $24,000, here's what you DON'T know.
Three days before "dinner" a C-17 flew Marines and the helicopter maintenance equipment to JFK Airport .
The day before "dinner" I flew the USSS and the motorcade to JFK Airport
Our crew of 5 spent two days and nights at the Hilton in Times Square . My hotel bill: $621.66 plus $64 a day in per diem. The USSS guys were at a different Hilton in NYC, so figure that cost another $14,000 (or so) plus per diem. The Marines had to have cost as much and were there four days, so figure another $55,000 plus per diem (for 44 Marines).
We were supposed to fly the motorcade back and go home, but the Air Force was so short C-17's that we were re-tasked to take the motorcade back, return to JFK and take the helicopter back to Quantico .
When we got back to JFK, while the pilot was turning the plane around to park, he noticed a rotor blade sticking out of the hangar where the helicopter was parked and informed me that either it wasn't ready to transport or it was flying home. After shutting down I walked over to the hangar and to my surprise I find FIVE helicopters, not ONE.
We're obviously not transporting five big helicopters. I went and talked to the Marines guarding the "fleet" and found that they were flying all five helicopters home and we were only transporting the Marines and the maintenance equipment. After talking to the Marine(s) in charge, I was told that the White House requested FIVE helicopters. The Marines told me that they spent all morning trying to figure out how much it cost them to come and said they figured it cost them $140,000 to stay there (I don't know where they came up with that) and the trip's total had to be about $1,000,000.
We heard that the President didn't use Air Force One (the 747) so I asked if he came in on one of the 757's. I was told that he came in on THREE Air Force Lear jets.
So, date night consisted of: 2 C-17's flying three missions, 3 Lear jets, 5 Helicopters,
Presidential Motorcade, 44 Marines, more than 20 USSS personnel on our plane. Who knows what it cost the NYPD and NY Port Authority (at the airport) in overtime.
These are the same people that chastised the automobile CEO's for using their aircraft.
It further proves that the media only use the facts that make the President look good and hide any facts that will detract from his persona..
Is this the 'change' we expected?
Talk with friends and those who are not blinded by charisma. Many folks I know who voted for Obama are very disappointed and sorry they did so.
The Emperor's clothes on a grand scale. "Transparency"? Remember, 2010 is just around the corner. All we have to do is survive long enough
The Obama's Date Night In New York City
The hidden cost as reported by a retired Navy Captain.
From a former Air Force Colonel....
Subject: The Date
First, let me say that I've moved three presidents up to now and I've seen incredible waste.
But, the "new" guy really takes the cake. I don't have an issue with the President promising his wife dinner and a show or that he even takes his wife out.
But, when I saw the news say that the date cost $24,000, here's what you DON'T know.
Three days before "dinner" a C-17 flew Marines and the helicopter maintenance equipment to JFK Airport .
The day before "dinner" I flew the USSS and the motorcade to JFK Airport
Our crew of 5 spent two days and nights at the Hilton in Times Square . My hotel bill: $621.66 plus $64 a day in per diem. The USSS guys were at a different Hilton in NYC, so figure that cost another $14,000 (or so) plus per diem. The Marines had to have cost as much and were there four days, so figure another $55,000 plus per diem (for 44 Marines).
We were supposed to fly the motorcade back and go home, but the Air Force was so short C-17's that we were re-tasked to take the motorcade back, return to JFK and take the helicopter back to Quantico .
When we got back to JFK, while the pilot was turning the plane around to park, he noticed a rotor blade sticking out of the hangar where the helicopter was parked and informed me that either it wasn't ready to transport or it was flying home. After shutting down I walked over to the hangar and to my surprise I find FIVE helicopters, not ONE.
We're obviously not transporting five big helicopters. I went and talked to the Marines guarding the "fleet" and found that they were flying all five helicopters home and we were only transporting the Marines and the maintenance equipment. After talking to the Marine(s) in charge, I was told that the White House requested FIVE helicopters. The Marines told me that they spent all morning trying to figure out how much it cost them to come and said they figured it cost them $140,000 to stay there (I don't know where they came up with that) and the trip's total had to be about $1,000,000.
We heard that the President didn't use Air Force One (the 747) so I asked if he came in on one of the 757's. I was told that he came in on THREE Air Force Lear jets.
So, date night consisted of: 2 C-17's flying three missions, 3 Lear jets, 5 Helicopters,
Presidential Motorcade, 44 Marines, more than 20 USSS personnel on our plane. Who knows what it cost the NYPD and NY Port Authority (at the airport) in overtime.
These are the same people that chastised the automobile CEO's for using their aircraft.
It further proves that the media only use the facts that make the President look good and hide any facts that will detract from his persona..
Is this the 'change' we expected?
Talk with friends and those who are not blinded by charisma. Many folks I know who voted for Obama are very disappointed and sorry they did so.
The Emperor's clothes on a grand scale. "Transparency"? Remember, 2010 is just around the corner. All we have to do is survive long enough
Sounds about right
tieguy
Banned
Sounds about right
I'm sure all presidents cost us alot when they fly around but this posting does bring up a point that the press has left alone.
Bush would go to crawfor texas and stay there for his vacation. That cost is relatively cheap when comparing the cost of securing a president.
Obama has been taking his family all over the country for his vacation. The cost of moving all that security is quite expensive and extravagant while so many of his citizens are hurting.
I know someone in the secret service who paid for a lot of nice home improvements with all that per diem money.
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