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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 328741" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p>To all, </p><p> </p><p>One of the reasons for sharing this sample of military wrongdoings IS NOT to condemn the Us military.</p><p> </p><p>In fact, what I have tried to do is show the realities of war and those realities are not pretty. While many of you who support not only this war but this Presidents agenda fail to see the true nature of war itself.</p><p> </p><p>It makes good people do bad things. </p><p> </p><p>Our men and women are put into a situation under a false pretense, then the mission changes and they adapt to it, then the mission changes and they try to adapt again, by the third change, they have had it with the policy and the anger and frustration seems to work its way out thru premeditated violence against the very people we are there to help.</p><p> </p><p>I see those who feel "safer" post about how glorious our troops are fighting so we can be safe, but are we safer after attrocities are committed??</p><p> </p><p>Will the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people be truly won if we condone the killing of innocent people over and over and over, then never hold them truly responsible??</p><p> </p><p>The list of crimes go's on and on.....</p><p> </p><p>When Boot claims they have been "cleared" there is a false sense of innocense given.</p><p> </p><p>Convictions of lesser crimes are stilll convictions. Dead people are still dead no matter what level of jurisprudence was the result.</p><p> </p><p>We as Americans have to shoulder the burden of these crimes against the Iraqi people.</p><p> </p><p>When we send our troops abroad to a foriegn land, we expect them to act like americans and not american gangsters.</p><p> </p><p>There is no excuse for these attrocities...NONE.</p><p> </p><p>They are in IRAQI fighting in our name, our name as Americans.</p><p> </p><p>This is not what AMERICANS do.</p><p> </p><p>What got me started down this line of postings was a quote by TIEGUY, our resident 24 hr poster.</p><p> </p><p>He said:</p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">This got me going. I was not participating in this debate until i read this.</span></p><p> </p><p>Funny thing, he states that if the Pres was Gore or Kerry, the terrorist would probably be over here Killing my family and raping the women.</p><p> </p><p>Instead, what he has is President Bush and the only foreign military force on a foriegn soil raping and killing families has been some members of the US Military.</p><p> </p><p>Ironic or moronic??</p><p> </p><p>These types of statements are the types of rhetoric that keeps us apart from finding the center of this argument.</p><p> </p><p>The war is bad, we all know it.</p><p> </p><p>It time to find a way out before it gets worse and more boys from our military find ways to vacation in LEVENWORTH.</p><p> </p><p>Peace<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 328741, member: 12148"] To all, One of the reasons for sharing this sample of military wrongdoings IS NOT to condemn the Us military. In fact, what I have tried to do is show the realities of war and those realities are not pretty. While many of you who support not only this war but this Presidents agenda fail to see the true nature of war itself. It makes good people do bad things. Our men and women are put into a situation under a false pretense, then the mission changes and they adapt to it, then the mission changes and they try to adapt again, by the third change, they have had it with the policy and the anger and frustration seems to work its way out thru premeditated violence against the very people we are there to help. I see those who feel "safer" post about how glorious our troops are fighting so we can be safe, but are we safer after attrocities are committed?? Will the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people be truly won if we condone the killing of innocent people over and over and over, then never hold them truly responsible?? The list of crimes go's on and on..... When Boot claims they have been "cleared" there is a false sense of innocense given. Convictions of lesser crimes are stilll convictions. Dead people are still dead no matter what level of jurisprudence was the result. We as Americans have to shoulder the burden of these crimes against the Iraqi people. When we send our troops abroad to a foriegn land, we expect them to act like americans and not american gangsters. There is no excuse for these attrocities...NONE. They are in IRAQI fighting in our name, our name as Americans. This is not what AMERICANS do. What got me started down this line of postings was a quote by TIEGUY, our resident 24 hr poster. He said: [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]This got me going. I was not participating in this debate until i read this.[/COLOR] Funny thing, he states that if the Pres was Gore or Kerry, the terrorist would probably be over here Killing my family and raping the women. Instead, what he has is President Bush and the only foreign military force on a foriegn soil raping and killing families has been some members of the US Military. Ironic or moronic?? These types of statements are the types of rhetoric that keeps us apart from finding the center of this argument. The war is bad, we all know it. It time to find a way out before it gets worse and more boys from our military find ways to vacation in LEVENWORTH. Peace:peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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