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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 3646525" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>And they get poor results in their lives.  People who work hard are rewarded.  It's on each person to get training and put in the effort.  If the government is going to take away most of your income to pay for everything then there's no incentive to innovate, to create.  There's no risk taking.  Take single payer healthcare that controls everything.  Doctors are limited on their ability to make money, and are frustrated by the red tape.  Soon you have doctors either retiring or leaving for more lucrative practices in other countries.  And the best and brightest don't go into medicine.  Soon you have a doctor shortage and you have to ration care.  Ask people in these systems how long they have to wait for procedures, or if they're even approved to have a procedure.</p></blockquote><p></p>