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<blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 4053914" data-attributes="member: 58700">this issue is really not that complicated to understand. I realize that you want to take an argumentative position and mock the issue but its nonsensical.we are now up to 100 K a month that are crossing the border.many of those turn theirselves in to border police which is overwhelming our resources.overwhelming our resources means less are working on drug interdictionoverwhelming our resources means less are working to prevent the criminals that will not turn theirselves inhaving an open border means those gang members are sneaking across our borderthere are often stories in the news of hardened criminals that have snuck across that border not once but many timesand have committed violent crimes here. So I realize that its difficult to put down the DNC talking points but your position that you just posted here is completely out of touchwith what is going on in the real world.make an argument for legal immigration which by the way is up if you wish but pooh pooing the serious border issue we have is just plain naïve.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="newfie, post: 4053914, member: 58700"] this issue is really not that complicated to understand. I realize that you want to take an argumentative position and mock the issue but its nonsensical. we are now up to 100 K a month that are crossing the border. many of those turn theirselves in to border police which is overwhelming our resources. overwhelming our resources means less are working on drug interdiction overwhelming our resources means less are working to prevent the criminals that will not turn theirselves in having an open border means those gang members are sneaking across our border there are often stories in the news of hardened criminals that have snuck across that border not once but many times and have committed violent crimes here. So I realize that its difficult to put down the DNC talking points but your position that you just posted here is completely out of touch with what is going on in the real world. make an argument for legal immigration which by the way is up if you wish but pooh pooing the serious border issue we have is just plain naïve. [/QUOTE]

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