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<blockquote data-quote="doolittle95" data-source="post: 258723" data-attributes="member: 11844"><p><span style="color: red">Good lord, putting aside the FACT that this conract only fixes the CS pension for UPS (permanently); while providing only a temporary fix for the actual CS fund; why not improve the language in every other part of the proposed contract? </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">You really don't think you're efforts r worth more money? You think giving back 25% of your "annual" wage is acceptable? You think that possibly having another 35 cents of that annual wage going into pension/wealfare is acceptable. (U don't see this language as a roundabout way of getting you to subsidize your own helathcare?) U don't see that the opt in/out language on over 9.5 undercuts seniority and will lead to the elimination of routes? U don't understand that the subcontracting changes and the 3 year layoff change can lead to the reduction of feeder jobs? No real protections now from GPS/technology being used in discipline. U think no more fulltime job creation is good thing? One year for partimers health care benes (18 months for family benes) to kick in? Sounds like they don't want older people w/families coming in any more...almost like age discrimination. Speaking of age discrimination, the new pension plan caps at 35yrs/ $3500, period. Assuming any new driver can make it that long or walk at that point, what is $3500 going to be worth in 35yrs? Hell, how r u CSers even going to make the 25/out and 30/out plans and afford to retire? Also UPS promising not to go after any more pensions for ten years is a guarantee that they WILL go after them in exactly ten years. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Yes the future is grim, thats why a NO vote now is so important. How ANY UPSer can read this proposal, understand it and vote yes is beyond my friggin comprehension. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doolittle95, post: 258723, member: 11844"] [COLOR=red]Good lord, putting aside the FACT that this conract only fixes the CS pension for UPS (permanently); while providing only a temporary fix for the actual CS fund; why not improve the language in every other part of the proposed contract? [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]You really don't think you're efforts r worth more money? You think giving back 25% of your "annual" wage is acceptable? You think that possibly having another 35 cents of that annual wage going into pension/wealfare is acceptable. (U don't see this language as a roundabout way of getting you to subsidize your own helathcare?) U don't see that the opt in/out language on over 9.5 undercuts seniority and will lead to the elimination of routes? U don't understand that the subcontracting changes and the 3 year layoff change can lead to the reduction of feeder jobs? No real protections now from GPS/technology being used in discipline. U think no more fulltime job creation is good thing? One year for partimers health care benes (18 months for family benes) to kick in? Sounds like they don't want older people w/families coming in any more...almost like age discrimination. Speaking of age discrimination, the new pension plan caps at 35yrs/ $3500, period. Assuming any new driver can make it that long or walk at that point, what is $3500 going to be worth in 35yrs? Hell, how r u CSers even going to make the 25/out and 30/out plans and afford to retire? Also UPS promising not to go after any more pensions for ten years is a guarantee that they WILL go after them in exactly ten years. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]Yes the future is grim, thats why a NO vote now is so important. How ANY UPSer can read this proposal, understand it and vote yes is beyond my friggin comprehension. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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