On Road supervisor position

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Maple85, Dec 24, 2011.

  1. Maple85

    Maple85 Member

    What process is taken when becoming a on road supervisor? It sounds like you have some interviews and MAPP testing but if you get through that then how are you trained? One guy told me they send you off to some class for like 3 or 4 weeks. Another guy told me its mostly just on the job training and learn as you go. So whats the word? Im an outsider if that matters at all. Thanks!
  2. brownelf

    brownelf Active Member

    the last on-road I know of only had to work 30 days in a package car, during that time she crashed twice and had numerous complaints filed against her before they promoted her to on-car in a neighboring center.
  3. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Love the Double Standards!
  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Mostly on the job training with a probable 3 day orientation at hire and a week school after you have been on the job for a year.
  5. faded jeans

    faded jeans just a member

  6. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    Be aware that the company no longer picks up the full cost for the mandatory lobotomy and castration. Your insurance will cover part of it, but the deductibles and co-pays will come out of your pocket.
  7. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    Begin your training now.
    Start telling small, insignificant lies to your family and friends now.
    An example would be, "Today is Tuesday....." even if today isn't Tuesday.
    By the time you pass the MAPP process you will have conditioned your conscience to not invoke the guilt or remorse response to anything you say.
    Continue to sharpen and condition these skills and you will attain corporate success!
  8. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    Thank you. I just spit coffee all over my monitor and now I have to go wipe it off. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
  9. TheKid

    TheKid Well-Known Member

    That actually made me laugh out loud. Thank you. Merry Christmas.
  10. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Learn how to train people. This means going out on the road and delivering a truck full of boxes by yourself. The person you are training does not need to be in the truck- you can tell them about it the next day.

    Tell everyone that there is "unforeseen" volume and that is why everyone is heavy today.

    Tell everyone to "record" a lunch, not "take" lunch.

    Tell everyone that you can do the job better AND that people are lining up to take their job for less money.

    Try to send three of four drivers down the same streets delivering. Then justify it.
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The last requirement would actually fall on the PDS.
  12. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Oh. Shame on me for not being so well-versed on the inner-workings at UPS. Of course, I do not get there and hour prior to start time.
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.


    Are they going to promote from within or bring in an outsider for the soon to be vacant on-car position?
  14. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    No idea. Probably eliminate it.
  15. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

    Study the Union Contract very carefully. As a Supervisor you'll be expected to know the many "rules of the game" so you can break them.
  16. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Expect to have no life, except what UPS tells you to do.
    You take the job and they expect you to do everything they want, screw any family life.
    I have seen to many center mgrs lives go down the tubes along with any hope for their families.
    It's a no win situation.
  17. rocket man

    rocket man Well-Known Member

    oh you should do it . They give you the best training the utmost best accomidations. un real meal vouchers. a 8 hour work day . you get so much respect from drivers and other on roads you will think you were in a dream world. GO FOR IT/IF YOU DONT WANT IT LET ME NO LOCATION YOU ARE IN SO I CAN APPLY now
  18. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Most awesome thing you have ever posted!


  19. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    MEE TOO! Pass the windex!

  20. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Let me share a story about this whole "on road supervisor" fantasy.

    Five years ago, a very good friend of mine just completed his 19th year as a package car driver. His body, tattered from the workloads, was starting to give him trouble. He asked to talk with me about becoming an on road supe in order to finish his career at UPS. His thoughts were that with all his experience as a driver, he could share that knowledge with his drivers under his care and have productive employees. He felt that he could bring some harmony to a crew of drivers since he had a clear understanding of the job at hand. He knew he wouldnt be able to make it to 30 years, but he was motivated to help others to get there.

    I responded by explaining the hardships of UPS management and the never ending parade of mental breakdowns that plague them. I showed him how many supervisors go out or are out on stress leaves. I showed him how the current on road supes were IN experienced and were mainly YES MEN and without any input into the operation.

    He agreed, but thought he could make a difference. He was NEVER in trouble or had anyone speak a bad word about him in his career.

    He made his decision and was promoted to an on road supervisor. He spent the first half a year in our building before being transferred out to a location 50 miles away. There, he met his drivers, he rode with all of them. He made recomendations that helped them and he took care of them by respecting each and everyone of them. They grew to know that he was there to HELP and not to hurt them.

    As the months passed, and UPS implemented the new GPS, EDD, PAS, PDS and whatever other intials they can throw in there, the company sat him down and instructed him to cut some routes and increase the workday. Seeing that he knew all the routes (since he rode on all of them) he knew that would bring trouble to the guys (21 of them) and the workday extended to late hours.

    He tried to counter the company with alternatives, but he was instructed to follow his directions. He did, the days got longer and the spohr lower. Production was horrible and the "numbers" just werent working out for the company. He was sat down again and told to increase the productivity by enforcing strick discipline including discharge if he couldnt get more production out of his drivers. He resisted that approach and gathered his drivers to explain the circumstances.

    The drivers responded by trying to pick up the pace a bit, but it never got anywhere near the ridiculous number UPS wanted. He was sat down again and he was disciplined by his DM for not making his numbers and was told to get results.

    Upset with the company, and unwilling to discipline the drivers for conditions he knew they could never achieve, he made a decision that came back to haunt him. He did not want to be disciplined himself because he was trying to finish his career at UPS, but facing the threat of being disciplined further he then realized he made the biggest mistake of his life becoming a supervisor. He knew then that the pain of his aching body was nothing compared to the pain of having to discipline innocent drivers and he should have stayed a driver.

    What he decided to do was to "cheat" the system. By that, he knew the number people wanted to see an average of 1/2 hour in the hole for all drivers, so he went into the computer and "adjusted" the time allottment for each delivery area in every drivers DOL. He thought no one would notice a half minute increase or in some cases, a minute increase in delivery stop time. This "adjustment" worked out perfectly as his numbers came within the "determined" hole time.

    It was working like a charm for about 2 months, but then, some IE Person reviewing the numbers picked up that something didnt make sense. How could the drivers be more productive if there were no substantial changes to the DOL or work areas? If all things remained the same, how could they achieve the production that was showing. IE knew that it had everyones route cut back (in production numbers) and it would be virtually impossible to be scratch or close to scratch, but all of a sudden, everyone was within a half an hour or at scratch in his group.

    Sure enough, they investigated and found the changes. They sat him down and he admitted doing it. He explained how he knew the drivers would not be able to make the ridiculous numbers that the company was asking for and admitted changing the allowances.

    The company FIRED HIM.

    He lost his career by defending his men and women. His conscience wouldnt let him go with the program and he surely didnt want to discipline drivers for something they had no control over. As a veteran driver, he knew the men did not deserve to be upset daily with writeups, pinks, suspensions and possible terminations.

    At the end of the day, when he made the call to me, he was in tears. His career over. he believed in the unbelievable, that he could "manage" a center.

    Today, he works for half the money and no benefits.

    I hope this helps anyone considering the job. His name was Andy. You all would have liked him.

    Lasted edited by : Dec 25, 2011