Once again we sat in the dark and got paid

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Kis124, Oct 28, 2014.

  1. Kis124

    Kis124 Member

    For the fourth time in my almost 7 years, power went out and we sat for a couple hours while 4 or so ie and oe sups scratched their heads lol. Finally got the generator truck and was amused watching on roads and such help unload and spa. Even had some flipping in small sort. Easy couple hours OT
  2. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    Sups were touching packages? I don't just laugh...I file a grievance.
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  3. BigBeef42

    BigBeef42 Active Member

    We have to leave the building when that happens. People steal shat big time at the brown

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  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Google "operational emergency".
  5. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    Google "stalker".
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Supervisors are allowed to work during operational emergencies, such as a power outage.
  7. bumped

    bumped Well-Known Member

    I thought it was "act of God". Did the terminology change?
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Yes-----please try to keep up.
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  9. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    You should keep up. The terminology did not change.

    Article 3
    Section 7. Supervisors Working

    (a) The Employer agrees that the function of supervisors is the

    supervision of Employees and not the performance of the work of

    the employees they supervise. Accordingly, the Employer agrees

    that supervisors or other employees of the Employer who are not

    members of the bargaining unit shall not perform any bargaining

    unit work, except to train employees or demonstrate safety, or as

    otherwise provided in the applicable Supplement, Rider or

    Addendum. However, in the case of Acts of God, supervisors shall

    comply with the procedures in subsections (b) and (c) and may only

    perform bargaining unit work until bargaining unit employees are

    available. The Employer shall make every reasonable effort to

    maintain a sufficient workforce to staff its operations with bargaining

    unit employees. The Employer also agrees that supervisors or other

    employees of the Employer who are not members of the bargaining

    unit shall not perform bargaining unit work in preparing the work areas

    before the start of the Employer’s hub, preload or reload operation, nor

    shall the Employer send any bargaining unit employee home and then

    have such employee’s work performed by a supervisor or other employees

    of the Employer who are not a member of the bargaining unit.

    (b) When additional employees are necessary to complete the

    Employer’s operations on any shift or within any classification, the

    supervisor shall exhaust all established local practices to first use

    bargaining unit employees including where applicable, double shifting,

    early call-in, and overtime.
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  10. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

    How many people had to leave due to other work obligations or family issues. I bet a more than a few so (no sufficient work force available and everybody that stayed was paid).

    Grievance not worth the paper it was written on...
  11. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    It could be argued that a power outage qualifies as an "act of God" that allows them to handle packages in order to make service on the them.
  12. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    I did not dispute the supervisors working. A power outage would be considered an act of God. The sups can work to make service on the packages. I just clarified the acts of God still worded in the contract.
  13. working up a sweat

    working up a sweat Active Member

    October 2011 snow storm knocked power out for 7 days here.

    Our hub has a UPS(uninterruptible power supply) unit. We never shut down during that time.

    It's a big engine running on fuel that generates the power to run the whole building.

    A private power plant to keep us going when the grid goes down.

  14. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    UPS isn't smart enough to install them everywhere. They have always been, and always will be, reactive instead of proactive.
  15. UPS4Life

    UPS4Life Active Member

    When my building loses power we send road sups 100 miles away to get the generator trailer for another hub smh

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  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Back up power sources are expensive.

    I can count on one hand the number of times our building lost power in the last 25 years.
  17. Kis124

    Kis124 Member

    The only lights that were on was the exit lights
  18. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    But what it cost UPS for that one day, overtime, renting a generator if it was out that long, etc could have paid for the back up power supply.

    I agree, in small centers it is not really cost effective. But I have been to over 10 hubs and none of them have one. Toledo was in the dark for 3 hours. Prime night sort time. 1:00 AM to 4:00 AM. Do you know how much that cost them. Indy, Columbus, Sharonville all went dark more than once.
  19. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I work at a smaller hub and we have our own generator for back up power. Also used during the summer during the Peak Alert times.
  20. UPS4Life

    UPS4Life Active Member

    My hub is 5 minutes from a cummins facility that has generators and 10 minutes from cat generators. Just spending a dollar to save a couple penny's! I know what you meant though all buildings can't have generators.

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