Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

[wilberforce15]

Converting classics to electric: how to do it and how much does it cost? - EV Central

Converting your classic car to electric is becoming increasingly popular. Here's how to do it in Australia, and how much it costs

evcentral.com.au

This is what it costs to do it correctly.

"Used battery prices have gone up a lot recently, so it’d be from about $40,000. Not counting any restoration; I don’t do bodywork, just the conversion. That’d be for about 90kW of power, 160km range and add a few thousand more for a DC fast charger port. More power and more range obviously costs more."

If you paid 20k for a conversion, you'd be driving around in a laughable contraption.

It is that expensive. Converting anything to an EV costs more than buying one, unless you love low specs and bad electronics.

Ford quoted you the cost of the motor, and you thought that was all. lololololololol.

lolololololol.

 

[vantexan]

Converting classics to electric: how to do it and how much does it cost? - EV Central

Converting your classic car to electric is becoming increasingly popular. Here's how to do it in Australia, and how much it costs

evcentral.com.au

This is what it costs to do it correctly.

"Used battery prices have gone up a lot recently, so it’d be from about $40,000. Not counting any restoration; I don’t do bodywork, just the conversion. That’d be for about 90kW of power, 160km range and add a few thousand more for a DC fast charger port. More power and more range obviously costs more."

If you paid 20k for a conversion, you'd be driving around in a laughable contraption.

It is that expensive. Converting anything to an EV costs more than buying one, unless you love low specs and bad electronics.

Ford quoted you the cost of the motor, and you thought that was all. lololololololol.

lolololololol.

While it's definitely more than $5k you're quoting an article priced in Australian Dollars*, worth considerably less than U.S. Dollars.
lololololololol

*Currently worth 72 cents in USD.

 

[wilberforce15]

While it's definitely more than $5k you're quoting an article priced in Australian Dollars, worth considerably less than U.S. Dollars.
lololololololol

Yes, and 20k American dollars cannot do an EV conversion where you'll end up with anything better than a clown car.

Ford is yanking your chain.

 

[vantexan]

Yes, and 20k American dollars cannot do an EV conversion where you'll end up with anything better than a clown car.

Ford is yanking your chain.

Says you says you.

 

[wilberforce15]

Says you says you.

Says everyone who has done it.
You have no idea how much is involved. When you remove the engine, every system breaks. Everything needs rewiring. It's a massive amount of work, requiring more in labor than you have in materials. It's a giant task, and you'll still end up with 100-150 mile range for way more than 20k american dollars.
These are simple facts. You can convert a car to EV and get a piece of hot garbage for 30k.

Or buy a Tesla for 40k.

 

[wilberforce15]

All the computer systems on modern cars make it even worse.
Most EV conversions even lose really basic functions and can't ever get them back. Everything is interdependent as a matter of design. You rip out an engine and put in an electric motor, you're going to lose it all from navigation and displays, to warning mechanisms to heat and A/C.

 

[vantexan]

Says everyone who has done it.
You have no idea how much is involved. When you remove the engine, every system breaks. Everything needs rewiring. It's a massive amount of work, requiring more in labor than you have in materials. It's a giant task, and you'll still end up with 100-150 mile range for way more than 20k american dollars.
These are simple facts. You can convert a car to EV and get a piece of hot garbage for 30k.

Or buy a Tesla for 40k.

And all I said was they're selling a crate motor for $5k for conversions. That that would appeal to some. You ran with that as if I said $5k was the total price. Obviously a crate motor doesn't include a battery or anything else involved. Are you illiterate or something?

 

[wilberforce15]

And all I said was they're selling a crate motor for $5k for conversions. That that would appeal to some. You ran with that as if I said $5k was the total price. Obviously a crate motor doesn't include a battery or anything else involved. Are you illiterate or something?

You believed that it was 5k. Or cheap. That's the entire reason you brought it up.

It's nonsense. It's almost as expensive as a Tesla for most conversions, and you get garbage.

It's worth it for a cool classic car to stay on the road. It's beyond pointless as a business for Ford to undertake. It simply isn't going to be done. Nobody will pay it.

If you knew it was expensive garbage, why bring it up?

 

[wilberforce15]

Was just reading about the electric crate motor Ford has developed to convert gas vehicles to. Costs $5000. I see a lot of sales for it at that price point with gas prices so high.

Boy, the guy who wrote this thinks there will be a lot of sales. Because people will convert to save on gas.

Nobody is spending 20k+ to lose heat, A/C, and navigation so they can get a 100 mile EV.

The guy who wrote this post was ignorant, and is now claiming not to be ignorant.

 

[vantexan]

You believed that it was 5k. Or cheap. That's the entire reason you brought it up.

It's nonsense. It's almost as expensive as a Tesla for most conversions, and you get garbage.

It's worth it for a cool classic car to stay on the road. It's beyond pointless as a business for Ford to undertake. It simply isn't going to be done. Nobody will pay it.

If you knew it was expensive garbage, why bring it up?

I didn't know it was expensive garbage. Ford came out with a way for classic car enthusiasts to convert old vehicles to electric. Never said it was going to perform like a Tesla. A lot of people with old cars and ever spiraling gas prices might want to convert them as a hobbyist/enthusiast might want to do. Does everything have to be a challenge to Tesla and their adherents?

 

[wilberforce15]

I didn't know it was expensive garbage. Ford came out with a way for classic car enthusiasts to convert old vehicles to electric. Never said it was going to perform like a Tesla. A lot of people with old cars and ever spiraling gas prices might want to convert them as a hobbyist/enthusiast might want to do. Does everything have to be a challenge to Tesla and their adherents?

A hobbyist or enthusiast can't do it. It takes real expertise.
"A lot of sales" were your words "At that price point" (meaning 5k).
It takes 3x that to do it yourself if you have your own shop.
It doesn't have to challenge Tesla to be relevant.

I feel it's important for people who know nothing to stop talking.

 

[vantexan]

Boy, the guy who wrote this thinks there will be a lot of sales. Because people will convert to save on gas.

Nobody is spending 20k+ to lose heat, A/C, and navigation so they can get a 100 mile EV.

The guy who wrote this post was ignorant, and is now claiming not to be ignorant.

Ford converted a 60's era pickup with a new crate motor they recently developed. I never thought for a minute everyone with a $35k vehicle was going to spend $5k more to avoid spending $70k on an overpriced microwave oven.

 

[vantexan]

A hobbyist or enthusiast can't do it. It takes real expertise.
"A lot of sales" were your words "At that price point" (meaning 5k).
It takes 3x that to do it yourself if you have your own shop.
It doesn't have to challenge Tesla to be relevant.

I feel it's important for people who know nothing to stop talking.

Then shut up about Ukraine already.

 

[wilberforce15]

Ford converted a 60's era pickup with a new crate motor they recently developed. I never thought for a minute everyone with a $35k vehicle was going to spend $5k more to avoid spending $70k on an overpriced microwave oven.

Ford converted that pickup for 50k+. It's a glamour project. Nothing more.

It's not a business.

You clearly did not know that.

 

[wilberforce15]

Then shut up about Ukraine already.

You mean The Ukraine.

 

[vantexan]

Ford converted that pickup for 50k+. It's a glamour project. Nothing more.

It's not a business.

You clearly did not know that.

I clearly knew that if someone wants to convert old vehicles into EV's Ford is now providing a $5k crate motor that you can't do it without. You're just mad that the engineers at the old dinosaur Ford came up with something Tesla didn't.

 

[vantexan]

You mean The Ukraine.

It's no longer referred to as The Ukraine. It's now just Ukraine. Apparently only ignorant people still think it is.

 

[wilberforce15]

I clearly knew that if someone wants to convert old vehicles into EV's Ford is now providing a $5k crate motor that you can't do it without. You're just mad that the engineers at the old dinosaur Ford came up with something Tesla didn't.

You believed there would be many sales because of the price point. You believe the priced point was 5k.
The engineers are so far behind Tesla they can't even see it in the distance. Tesla can beat Ford's conversion with double the stats for the same price as the conversion, but with a new car.

 

[wilberforce15]

It's no longer referred to as The Ukraine. It's now just Ukraine. Apparently only ignorant people still think it is.

It's The Ukraine, just as it always has been.

 

[wilberforce15]

Ford is trying to beat the best by using the back of the class.